Closing the gun
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Lloyd
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It can fit two guns, magicbore, Legia spray, vests, ear defenders, gloves, eyewear, snacks, drinks, pack away rain coats and 300 cartridges.
If my girlfriend were to pack it, she could probably get enough for a squad of six and a hairdryer in there too
It can fit two guns, magicbore, Legia spray, vests, ear defenders, gloves, eyewear, snacks, drinks, pack away rain coats and 300 cartridges.
If my girlfriend were to pack it, she could probably get enough for a squad of six and a hairdryer in there too
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El Spavo
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Snacks and drinks?? Do you shoot on a three day trek to Cambodia or something?!! 
MartynB
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By my reckoning that’s around 20kg loaded . Don’t drop it on your foot !
I use this for incognito carry , such as carrying through a hotel reception , it looks like a musical instrument, or an AV type carry case
https://www.protective-cases.co.uk/product/skb-2skb-sc3409-hybrid-breakdown-case/
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Sorry but that's the bit that I don't like. If guns are in and out of slips because keeping them dry is more important than people seeing they are safe, then it's easy to see the potential for a cartridge to get left in by mistake with nobody to check for human error.
Lloyd
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Well my girlfriend would come in handy once more. She’s used to dragging 20kg of luggage through a hotel reception.
*Its 23.8kg
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I see what you mean, but I can't see a gun being fired whilst in it's slip, and it's put in and taken out correctly (broken).
Having said the above, human error can throw up some remarkable results though.
I almost never use a slip when shooting a round, it would have to be pouring something chronic, a bit of rain never hurt a proper gun. That way everyone can see it is broken except when in the stand. As for the pompous ceremony of breaking it while withdrawing it from the slip, give me a break. If you can’t be trusted to have put it away empty.............................you’re a dangerous numpty.
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Agreed. It's not a written rule at my club, but on arrival guns are taken from the case, slip or shopping bag and assembled in a dedicated area. Guns are then only carried open while on the grounds, mostly over the arm, underhand or over the shoulder (which isn't allowed indoors, so no one gets knocked about). If worried about rain, shooters can carry a towel or shoot the compak course which has a roof over the stands. I've covered my gun with the towel I carry on ocassion, and while that doesn't cut the mustard in anything torrential, it keeps the action mostly dry. Everything then gets a proper wipe when disassembling, of course. Closed guns in and out of slips all over the course would rapidly invite comments.
Lloyd
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Well, there’s a first time for everything. In this instance, I don’t entirely agree with you. I don’t entirely disagree either, so maybe this is a half a first time for everything?
Ive only ever shot once where I used a slip. On the occasion, it was a gun that was loaned to me via a third party, so I respected the owner and used the slip. It happened to be raining that day, though not excessively so.
On that occasion I went through the “pompous ceremony” of breaking the gun in the slip.
I agree, if you can’t be trusted to put a gun away empty, you are indeed a dangerous numpty, but this is where I feel my point of view may diverge from your own.
I act safely and with at least a modicum of intelligence, but based on the possibility that even the most fastidious of us may at some point make a small error and be something of a numpty. There is quite a correlation between ‘accidents’ and nonchalance. Of course no one would be nonchalant with a gun... expert those who maybe has made a mistake.
So, take the scenario that an experienced shooter with decades of experience and impeccable record of safety, slips their gun, momentarily distracted doesn’t notice the one time in 500,000 cartridges that a live cartridge is in the breech. However... with all the pomposity and ceremony, the sight of brass as they load into the slip is a stark reminder that even the most vigilant may err once in a while and thus a possible calamity is averted.
For that reason, I’ll take pompous ceremony on the chin every time.
Anthony Materese Jr famously says you miss shots because “you’re either being too careless or too careful”
With gun safety, you can never be too careful
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Wonko the Sane
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Always fascinatin' to see that a number of you haven't sense enough to get in out or the rain :lolu:
El Spavo
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Kind of on the same lines... Never use a slip unless it's tipping down, and as Wonko suggested, I just won't go out in that weather it's only if I'm caught out halfway round.
But the last bit is only contentious cos surely its not for one's benefit, it's courtesy for other patrons?
Lloyd
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This is Old Blighty. That possibility would never occur to an Englishman, much less those of a more Celtic persuasion. If we did, nowt would ever get done.
Come to think of it... nowt ever gets done.
You may have a point
westley
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Just for the benefit of those that question how a gun should be removed or replaced in a gunslip, remember that is the method that is hammered home, on any of the various courses that I have attended (and there have been a few). Even the young shots days that I have assisted on, use the same method. But hey, who am I to comment, I will continue to use a gunslip and 'FAFF' my way around the various grounds. It has served me well for some 60 years, a bit late to change now. Only today, I was asked why I call, PULL (high house) MARK (low house) and TRAP (pair). It goes back to when I first shot skeet and the traps were all MANUAL. The trapper inside the trap houses could not see which target was due to be thrown next, so, they listened to the shooter calling PULL, MARK or TRAP and released their trap accordingly. Having spent so many years using this method, I now find it destroys my concentration to use anything else. If it ain't broken and all of that !
I’ll continue to faff as well Westley. I know I’m safe. On the other hand there’s a lot of tw*ts out there who aren’t. If seeing me get my gun out and put away safely makes someone else happy then good. I suggest some of you wait until you get a gun waived around at close quarters or watch as someone’s pride and joy falls to the ground and the stock cracks where they’ve slipped.
westley
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That brings back memories of a shoot where I was Reffing. It was a BASC shoot and most of the entries were game shooters. I saw a Guy that was carrying his gunslip 'wrong way up'. As he came past me I waited until he was stood alone and then just quietly told him. I was met with a look that was fit to kill, after all I was one of the man servants who was there to make his day enjoyable. About 2 hours later I was having a coffee break from the stand I was Reffing and as I approached the clubhouse I could see a conference party on the veranda who all appeared to be inspecting something. One of the other Instructor/Refs then came to me stating "Youre a Witch, you are" ! It transpired that while a certain Guy was making his way around the stands the zip on his gunslip parted and his No. 1 gun of a pair of Boss now had a two piece stock. I said nothing and went and sat on my broomstick having my coffee !
schmokinn
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No idea why people us gunslips in the rain,gun in and out couple of times and the slip is wet inside,just means the gun stays wet till you get home.
Rather wait till i am finished wipe it down and put it in.
Rather wait till i am finished wipe it down and put it in.
El Spavo
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If it's not hammering down, it's equally easy to keep a cloth, take the drops off quickly as you put it in and it keeps the inside dry. Usually don't bother with a slip walking round, too much of a faff, but done that a few times and worked for me.
