have u been looking elvis!!!Ginger knob,I've had the money bit shown to me,it's all the costs that the grounds charge nothing to do with the board that run it,theres fek all left.
What colour is the sky in your world?Most grounds that run FITASC shoots have ample traps at their disposal, so there is no extra expense to them there.
Referees are a major expense, why could the squads not referee themselves?
The only costly expense is the slow rate of competitors through the layouts.
Most grounds that run good fitasc events have enough ground and traps at their disposal to also run a normal 100 birder at the same time.
I think possibly the root cause is the high entry fee and that is sometimes dictated by greed of the grounds.
The English Skeet Club has run similarly since it started yrs ago, except that everyone shoots comp, so there is £5 / shooter in the class prize fund to pay out 1,2,3 etc as well as the option of betting £5 on yourself to win your class. 40 entries in a class = £200 prize fund + possible £200 class win prize. Competition entry fee is usually £28 - £30 , the option £5 is extra.For what it's worth the English Open at the weekend ran without a prize fund but using the Options 'bet on yourself' method. John Heagren took £70 home for winning A class, Pet Easton £30 for Ladies. I think if a few more people known what it was a few more may have been interested, to be fair it wasn't until it was worked out on Sunday night that I really got my head around it.
For those that don't know about it, basically everyone shot BO for want of a better description. All competing for honours and trophies. If you fancied your chances in either your category or class (or both!), you bet £10 on whichever or both.
So John Heagren for example stated £10 on my class, we ticked the A class box and took his tenner. Pet Easton chose a tenner on Ladies.
At the end of the shoot, the highest score in A that had taken an 'option' won the pot. In this case £70 (so 7 people had taken the 'option', Pet took £30 because 3 ladies had taken the 'option'.
Juniors this time only saw one person put his money down so he got his tenner back!
One guy chose Veterans and his class so that cost him £20.
Only what's paid in per your class or category is paid back out.
To be fair, it worked well and those that like to play to the pressure had their chance to do so. :wink: for those that wanted to shoot without worrying about the 'competition prize fund' they did their thing too. No pressure either way.
Horses for courses and all that.
Ally
Why then is it FITASC is not run like this?The English Skeet Club has run similarly since it started yrs ago, except that everyone shoots comp, so there is £5 / shooter in the class prize fund to pay out 1,2,3 etc as well as the option of betting £5 on yourself to win your class. 40 entries in a class = £200 prize fund + possible £200 class win prize. Competition entry fee is usually £28 - £30 , the option £5 is extra.
Exactly that!does fitasc cost more for refs? yes they are more expensive but you only need 1 per layout compared to 1 per stand for sporting?
clays cost the same, similar number of traps, blah blah blah
surely the only valid point is less shooters so the entry goes up to cover that lack of revenue compared with sporting.
i enjoy fitasc but at virtually twice the price of ESP i would rather do 2 ESP a month than 1 fitasc, sadly we cant all afford to it as and when it pleases, you only have to look at who does shoot it regular and its generally the older people with excess time and money to spare.
never paid for a lesson in my life, and at that sort of price i certainly couldnt afford to!
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