I think this thread has run it's course on the forum. I think we can all agree that cheating is something that our community is committed to stamping out, and that no-one supports it. ShootClay endorses that position, but is also mindful of the fact that so much is rumour and hearsay, it is difficult to comment without knowing the facts and being a witness. We should also remind ourselves that any shooting forum, or for that matter any shooting website is a window into our sport for the next generation of great shooters. Dishonest actions, our discussion of cheating, and our reactions when we discuss important issues are the models of behaviour that our future champions will follow. Please think about that when posting a snap reaction to a comment or an accusation or denial of a controversial action. I'm closing the thread now, so that we don't spiral into speculation and get ourselves into trouble. If anyone has an issue with me doing that, then please contact me outside the forum and I'll happily discuss that. Matt