when I worked in the gun shop I had my choice of any of the Hull range and the DTL 300 8's were my choice and that's over Sovereigns too, although I love the Sovereign Fitasc 8's, the dtl's are soft - fairly fast but their kills were brilliant for Sporting especially edge on targets, I personally think there are no really bad shells out there now but you need to get confidence from what ever you shoot and all the better if they're as cheap as they come, here Eley Olympics are the cheapest shell around at £140/£145 and every one use's them apart from a few Hull or Fiocchi die-hards, under 45 yards even the quality of today's 21grms will shoot average Sporting targets well.