Are you kidding me??? Its safe to leave a loaded gun in a gun rack???!!! What idiot would do that.
I think you are missing the point ! A LOADED gun in a gunrack is perfectly SAFE. It only becomes a danger WHEN someone picks it up ! IF that is not done correctly, ie :- Taken from the rack and whilst the barrels are still pointing UPWARDS the gun is opened, thereby allowing anything in the breech to fall out, NOT allowing the barrels to point all around the clubhouse before opening the gun. In answer to your "What idiot would do that", well, certainly the 2 idiots that put 'mouse holes' in the skirting boards of the 2 clubhouses that I know of !
Not in any way trying to pick a fight but there are many ways that statement could be very wrong. There are innumerable ways a trigger can be pull by accident ! I sort of get what you are saying but it is just not true. I personally would never put a gun into a rack unless it was broken the very act proves it is empty... if there is anything up the spout it is going to fall out... but it amazes me how many insist on putting guns in closed and if a gun is closed it is impossible to tell whether it is safe or not. But it is just my view others can feel free to differ
I will have the cartridges in my hand but only put them into the gun when I have actually moved onto peg 1. Just our interpretation on things, I suppose. The trigger could only be pulled by 'accident' with Human intervention, I feel. Shooters are all too reliant on safety catches.Not in any way trying to pick a fight but there are many ways that statement could be very wrong. There are innumerable ways a trigger can be pull by accident ! I sort of get what you are saying but it is just not true. I personally would never put a gun into a rack unless it was broken the very act proves it is empty... if there is anything up the spout it is going to fall out... but it amazes me how many insist on putting guns in closed and if a gun is closed it is impossible to tell whether it is safe or not. But it is just my view others can feel free to differ
As an aside about gun safety I was warned the other month by a ref for putting my cartridges into my broken gun while I waited for a shooter to move from post 1 to 2 and to be honest I still don't get it? He asked me to remove my cartridges until the shooter actually move to the next station... BUT nobody ever removes their cartridges when the stand waiting to shoot post three when they have moved to the side and rear of three from post two???? Can anybody explain the logic? The ruling is that after shooting five you must remove cartridges from the gun before moving to post one but I have never heard of anybody removing their cartridge before standing behind the next post they are about to shoot. I think he was wrong to warn me but would like an opinion on that.
That is sometimes what I do too Westly however just being pedantic is there any difference between standing waiting for post one or standing waiting for post three? Other than the fact that all the other shooters are to your right on post one. I know of nobody who does not put either one or two shells into their gun immediately after having shot say posts one to four or put it another way do you remove any unfired shells after you shoot the target on posts one to four?
Good idea, I can do that on my sub £1000 ATA SP trap.I just slip out the trigger group.
Well, I used to remove both cartridges to move onto the next peg all the way between 1 and 5 or most certainly 6, but as my trap shooting improved I was only firing 1 shot and hitting the target :angel:
Thank you Lars, THAT is precisely the point I was making, regarding gun racks.
The ISSF rule states that the carts only need to be removed between 5 and 1. It was in the olden days between each station. Apparently if a rule is ignored enough it is abandoned. If it is OK to go between stations with an open and loaded gun then why would it not be OK to load behind the shooter waiting to move? But obviously it is way easier to just go with the flow and not brace the ref. I mean, what does the difference in anything in that matter? Just be a perfectly lovely person like me and move on.
Agreed Charlie but it seems odd that standing in 6 waiting is any different to waiting at any other point on the line of course I always empty the gun on five but on arrival at one normally just put another two in as one has shot and just waiting on two moving. Strange thing is I went through the Euro's and never had a mention never mind any warnings. Another thing that is strange I have seen nobody using 6 other than possibly at the start of the round other than that you are standing just left and behind the shooter on one.
Just to clarify, the gun is carried open and unloaded to the rack.
(I'm sure you understood it that way Westley)
Lars, just to let you know Westley is a scouser when he speaks in his mother tongue nobody in the rest of the UK can understand him :angel:Just to clarify, the gun is carried open and unloaded to the rack.
The written language can be very easily misinterpreted, especially when one tries to write in a non mother tongue. :angel:
Lars
I have to agree your gun your responsibility. Just think if someone was really looking to steal a gun, this set up sounds very poor, you should never be in a position where you don't have the gun in your immediate view or locked away. Just think how your actions would sound in a court of law if the worst happened.
Nametag?It certainly does make you think. You feel like you're in a safe environment amongst like minded people but I guess nothing is truly sacred these days!
I feel sorry for those with the blue Beretta gunslips. How you work out which one in yours is beyond me.....
