And I shot a left and right at snipe using 28 grams of number 4 at 193 yards!!!!! Look, the ballistics of this just aren't feasible....even with some ridiculously tight choke constriction you cant maintain pattern density worth a damn at these ranges, yes, you may break one now and then but I would quite happily bet a large sum of money that someone could not shoot more than 5 in a row. The word that matters here is "measured" and that has to be with a range finder or a wheel, preferably the latter. A bunch of us messed about at this earlier in the year, including Mr Faulds and yes it could be broken with a degree of consistency at 80 - 90 yards with 42 gram 4's but at 100yards and over everything falls apart. If you want to see just how badly things deteriorate then pattern your gun at 100 yards on a barn wall or similar and see just how many dozen clays you can fit in the holes in your pattern. Why not ask all those with these claims to all meet at a ground with the distance measured out and a true vertical teal rather than one that comes in 20 yards at the top of its flight.....that way we can prove just what can and cant be done and maybe we can establish a new world record....(wink wink)not that im cynical or anything.....