Masic
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ahhh going to be put straight into b class .. onwards and upwards to my goal to get into and stay in a class
Sandbagger !!! No only joking Ray , I know how much you wanted to get into AA . Only speaking about skeet ,you get some shooters who seem to shoot not a lot of registered targets and stay in AA and others who shoot literally thousands of registered targets also AA ,so who really is a true AA shot ?? .Also there are as has been stated, quite a few shooters who suspiously seem to be in classes lower than their ability (dont say a word Ray ,i know ) .In Skeet you have shooters that will stay in a class they should'nt be in to stay at the top of the tree therefore always in or near the money /Trophies ,where'as in a higher class they're generally never going to win!Unfortunately when there is a money element, some will go to any length's to win, so sandbagging will always be there ?
Personally I don't agree with the NSSA method of classification either, as some shooters purposely shoot 5 poor scores before they
shoot any majors over here or the World Championships in America just to get down in class.
I missed AA Class in skeet 12 month's ago literally by 0.1 (96) average, and was afforded the sandbagging tag, then 6 month's ago got
into AA Class by .5 (96.5) and then have some say I'm not a AA Class shooter and should be in A Class so you cannot win.
I now tend to shoot birds only, as the prize money side of things to me does not matter. :no:
Andre, I know someone who shot a 100 straight in Doubles recently and is in A Class for Doubles... :crazy: :spiteful:Sandbagger !!! No only joking Ray , I know how much you wanted to get into AA . Only speaking about skeet ,you get some shooters who seem to shoot not a lot of registered targets and stay in AA and others who shoot literally thousands of registered targets also AA ,so who really is a true AA shot ?? .Also there are as has been stated, quite a few shooters who suspiously seem to be in classes lower than their ability (dont say a word Ray ,i know ) .In Skeet you have shooters that will stay in a class they should'nt be in to stay at the top of the tree therefore always in or near the money /Trophies ,where'as in a higher class they're generally never going to win!
So it would seem to be you have two sorts of shooters (plus others who just accept they are where they are in class) you have the shooter that wants to be at the top of the class tree, and the shooter that wants to be a big fish in a small pool and pick up money !!
That's what I thought too!!! Then things come together (sometimes) practice my weaknesses (whenever I can) had a few lessons, taken advice (only from the very few people I trust) try to learn from my (many) mistakes...and a 1st, two 2nd's and two 3'rd's in B later and my average is sending me to A where I know I'll have to work even harder to compete...but that's why I do it!!!71.7% so means I will be taking my first step up the ladder to B class in ESP .. Might be a while before anymore brown envelops come my way.
As they say every dog has its day (gotta say hes not been watching me !!) Ray i know a shooter who used to be the other side of 96 nearly all the time who was AA , but now struggles to see a 93/94 in B .............. . DILLIGAF !!!Andre, I know someone who shot a 100 straight in Doubles recently and is in A Class for Doubles... :crazy: :spiteful:
Ordinarily I would agree but I have won D class in ABT with a D class score (75ex100). There were slightly higher scores on the day but they were 'birds only'. £40 winnings just covered the entry fee but very welcome all the same.Look its simples, it doesn't matter what class you are in you HAVE to shoot a AA or A class score on the day to win anything end of.,..
PS - I speak only about trap as do not know about that other stuff.
point takenOrdinarily I would agree but I have won D class in ABT with a D class score (75ex100). There were slightly higher scores on the day but they were 'birds only'. £40 winnings just covered the entry fee but very welcome all the same.
Only happened once though. :-(
DT
Small bore rifle shooting you say? Tell me more...In small-bore target shooting the classification system is also disappointing as you are awarded a national classification depending on your performance outdoors on Century Range at Bisley which is a wicked range with wind and mirage. Your indoor average is used if you have no national classification so when I first went there donkeys years ago I started in C class and performed so dismally on the national outdoor range that I promptly went down to D class until after a couple of years I won my way out into C again. Then after a couple of years won my way into B class by shooting the Scottish again renowned for wicked conditions and then went to Bisley and got promoted to A class in the same year in fact within 6 weeks. The top class in the target game is X class and there are now only 100 shooters in it. The top 10% of A get promoted and the bottom 10% of X get demoted. There was a time when X class which is supposed to be only the elite was full of shooters who were no longer capable of being in the class as their shooting had declined so the compulsory demotion was introduced. Its a big dent in the ego to be demoted but if one has been ill, been out of the game for a while after an operation it seems only fair to let them shoot in their true class whilst they try and recover their form. Mind you there is no longer any money in target shooting so its honours based. Everyone would almost kill to get into X class and the related bragging rights. "I have been in X class for XX years etc."
Not terribly relevant but of interest and in provincial comps people find excuses to nominate a lower class and sandbag or cheat. Me I've been in A class nationally and will always shoot in A class at local/county comps but nationally I have been demoted to B. Sob, Sob etc Age is taking its toll!!
I am always civil......and honest.Posts deleted - please keep it civil Nicola.
I am always civil......and honest.
Oh ..I give up.
You just write what you want me to reply to some one who is calling my post flawed when several others like it?
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