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jason king

might not recover?(understatement) very few things I am sure of, but  losing monies on any change of equipment is mostly a certainty, especially if its altered from stock condition, doesnt matter if its a camera or car etc, thats how life works!

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antse7en
On 1/13/2019 at 9:38 PM, GlawsterOldCodger said:

Will does have a point, as for the MK38 ticking boxes thats a long & possibly expensive "aim to do list" you already have in your head for the gun when you get your paws on it, like many Ive got a MK38 Trap, bought when, after a wretched 6 months with it I shifted on a DT10,  its (the MK that is) the most base spec which was then already multi-choked which for sporting is almost needed due to the original Trap choking, then for it to fit me I had the stock lenghtened & then cast as the stock was ram-rod straight, never seen such a straight stock on anything else Ive ever owned, the Mk is still in my cabinet I didn't need to sell on when buying a P gun, chap in short there is most, very very most probably just the gun for you out there which won't need the extra over spend (which you might not recover in future selling on)

So the maths make you right I feel @GlawsterOldCodger

  • Gun: £2900 
  • Adjustable system £250
  • Teague the gun: £320
  • x 4 Teague chokes £216

Total: £3686 before a pad change and spacer.

This is a lot of money - and there must be something (even a S/H MK38) off the shelf for no more than £2500 which ticks all of the above. 

(Before anybody says it I have completely lost my faith in the B725 which makes it a non-starter for me).

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Lloyd Pattison

Seriously, try a second hand CG Invictus if you can find one. If you cant, try a Summit.

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Salopian

Could I point out that if you so much as fit an alternative pad to a new Browning / Miroku  according to BWM you will invalidate the guarantee ! ! ! !

 Be very careful , it could be an expensive route you are going down . Refund and buy what you can find /like /fits/ suits is the best way to go .

For the sort of money you are spending I would certainly look at CG as an alternative .

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antse7en
54 minutes ago, Lloyd Pattison said:

Seriously, try a second hand CG Invictus if you can find one. If you cant, try a Summit.

Thanks, will see what I can do. 

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Will Hewland
15 minutes ago, antse7en said:

Thanks, will see what I can do. 

Did you try a Blaser yet? EJC have them as Club guns so you can borrow to try. They have stock and forend weights, so you can adjust the feel very well. 

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Wonko the Sane
On 1/13/2019 at 5:11 PM, jason king said:

might not recover?(understatement) very few things I am sure of, but  losing monies on any change of equipment is mostly a certainty, especially if its altered from stock condition, doesnt matter if its a camera or car etc, thats how life works!

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The sow's ear / silk purse thing is an absolute loser every time.  Even if you are happy with it (presuming you actually know WTF you want to start with) at some time you will move on and take the hit.  I'm not a Blaser fan BUT you should at least give some thot to what Will says, not to mention a number of other easily affordable guns for the numbers you put up.  Your project is an outrageous expenditure for what amounts to a lark.  IMO you really need to step back and take a hard look at you're doing.

JMO of course - - YMMV

BTW I've seen otherwise beautiful quality guns up to and including Fabbris with Teagues or Brileys that sit for YEARS on the for sale rack simply because there are similar guns available for a few $ more that have not been mutilated.

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jason king

Thats why I suggested the second hand route, some one else has already shelled out for teagues etc, let them take the brunt of the loss, that way if its not what you get on with parting is only a minor glitch.

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antse7en

I'm with you - I've decided it's a silly move financially and not worth the outlay. 

I've spoken to EJ and refund is an option, therefore I'll look at S/H market.

If you guys come across MK38s that have had extended teagues/adjustable stock do shout. I'm keeping on top of Gun Trader and Gun Star.

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jason king

makes sence

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MartynB
3 hours ago, Wonko the Sane said:

 

BTW I've seen otherwise beautiful quality guns up to and including Fabbris with Teagues or Brileys that sit for YEARS on the for sale rack simply because there are similar guns available for a few $ more that have not been mutilated.

Strange how the London gun trade send barrels “ in the white “ to Teague Precision Chokes to be “mutilated “ when they could easily do their own work ... I must remember to get a deal on a best quality SLE  fitted with such from the slow moving stock rack at this year’s Game Fair . 

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Wonko the Sane
19 hours ago, MartynB said:

Strange how the London gun trade send barrels “ in the white “ to Teague Precision Chokes to be “mutilated “ when they could easily do their own work ... I must remember to get a deal on a best quality SLE  fitted with such from the slow moving stock rack at this year’s Game Fair . 

No snark intended but I was not under the impression that the London gun trade set any sort of standards for anyone in the 21st Century.  The best that I can tell you is what I see in the marketplace here.  I know/know of not a single person that would opt for an aftermarket choked, overbored, or ported gun over one unmolested that will always cost more $.  Personally I have no interest in a gun that has been "fixed"

YMMV - - - buy, shoot whatever rings your bell!  Stimulate the economy!

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Fishing Richie

I was going down exactly the  same route as antse7en

I am not a top shot by any stretch but wanted a nice gun and one that could shoot steel as well as lead for some live quarry.

I ended up with a G5 32'' MK38 Sporter with trap F/E.

Having read all of the reviews they did not seem to rate this model as much as the Trap but the cost of sporterising the trap model just ruled it out to me.

At my level I  think I would have been unable to tell the difference in performance / balance of the Trap compared to the Sporter

Rich

 

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antse7en

So, update..

I went cheap and purposeful. 

Bought a single owner MK38 trap (grade 1) in 32" barrels with factory adjustable system. In original condition. The wood is, well, a grade 1 but mechanically everything is spot on. 

Grand total of £900. Quite different to the £3600 I was nearly going to spend! Even going Teague with x4 chokes would only bring me up to shy of £1500. 

Thanks all for your input - glad I floated it on here before acting. 

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jason king

Good job,a grade one will shoot exactly the same as a grade 5,might be a slight differance depending on weight of wood, but you can always add weight,bit more difficult to remove it !  enjoy, thats the main thing 👍

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schmokinn
1 hour ago, antse7en said:

So, update..

I went cheap and purposeful. 

Bought a single owner MK38 trap (grade 1) in 32" barrels with factory adjustable system. In original condition. The wood is, well, a grade 1 but mechanically everything is spot on. 

Grand total of £900. Quite different to the £3600 I was nearly going to spend! Even going Teague with x4 chokes would only bring me up to shy of £1500. 

Thanks all for your input - glad I floated it on here before acting. 

Save yourself 500 quid and just get it regulated to 3/8 and 3/8 :biggrin:

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antse7en
5 minutes ago, schmokinn said:

Save yourself 500 quid and just get it regulated to 3/8 and 3/8 :biggrin:

I can't keep saving money otherwise the Mrs will realise at some point and want a percentage! :laugh:

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El Spavo

How the other half live. 😊

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schmokinn
1 hour ago, antse7en said:

I can't keep saving money otherwise the Mrs will realise at some point and want a percentage! :laugh:

Just buy a load of shells,you should keep at least 10,000 for unforeseen eventualities 🙄:w00t:

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MartynB

Check  that the barrel selector moves from over to under . Some of then came with a pin fitted inside to fix it as trap shooters always fire bottom first . If it is fixed it’s not a problem it’s a two minute job to remove it . I’m sure you’ll be shooting it a bit before you play with the chokes , so  just enjoy showboating for a while  when everything you hit turns into vapour 🤣

Great choice, good lateral thinking, 

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antse7en

So shot the MK38 today for the first time - absolutely lovely piece of kit. 

It's set up in my best guess configuration (comb height, make-shift spacer added, original trap pad) but was a pleasure to shoot on my local grounds sporting layout. 

Looking forward to Tuesday, travelling up to see Mr Teague to have it properly fitted. Proper sporting pad, spacer added and filed in.

Once that's done I can finally get back onto the reg scene as it's been a frustrating few weeks away from it.

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squimp
On 1/23/2019 at 4:34 PM, schmokinn said:

Save yourself 500 quid and just get it regulated to 3/8 and 3/8 :biggrin:

Mr Teague may well advise you to do exactly that.

He did a 3800 Trap for me years ago,  12 thou in one barrel and 16 in the other.

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antse7en

Just back from my visit with Nigel - probably one of the nicest blokes I've ever met. 

Going with a kick-eez pad, spacer and angling the heel of the pad off. Considered tweaking the stock to full monte carlo but feel it's one too many adjustments at this stage. 

Must have spent an hour and a half chatting with him, looking at mount, laser, making adjustments etc. Even got a tour of his (rather nice) house including the snooker room! Safe to say he's done very well from the sale of his business, but he still stands by "the job must be done right" which is great. 

Gun is being collected once he's done his part for Teague fitting (gone for skeet, 3/8, 3/8 and 5/8) extended thin wall chokes.

Nearly there!

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MartynB

Yes he is a true gentleman,  apparently the building that you point the laser down was the workshop where the choke business used to operate from .  

The work will be top end stuff. The transition on my stock from wood to spacer to Kickeez is as smooth as a smooth thing . 

The only down side is that from now on a big slice of excuses have gone 😂

 

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