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Maintained Lead.
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jake.keeling
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and Peter Wilson used the most extreme Maintained lead you can get, it was correct before the target appeared .. Be interesting to see what him and the Arab come up with for Random Pairs.
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Mark Jones
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Yes but it is a known distance and speed. This is where it causes a problem in sporting
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And i thought this was about shooting style's.I suppose keep tugging away gently will make you shoot when you've mastered it.
Sounds like he's trying to master****...And i thought this was about shooting style's.I suppose keep tugging away gently will make you shoot when you've mastered it.
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i always thought maintained lead was an argument against steel shot ???? :frown: :frown:
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i think there are a few folk on here that appear to have been brainwashed
scores on the board is all that really matters, a 90% childerhouse maintained lead is better than a swing thru darkside 70% every day of the week
maybe he could gain a few birds changing technique here and there but seriously dismissing a style completely is a bit over the top.
scores on the board is all that really matters, a 90% childerhouse maintained lead is better than a swing thru darkside 70% every day of the week
maybe he could gain a few birds changing technique here and there but seriously dismissing a style completely is a bit over the top.
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Well Mark, if people cannot judge speed or distance in sporting, I expect it will not matter what method they use (laughs).
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Now people.......this is a discussion on method and not personal.i think there are a few folk on here that appear to have been brainwashed
scores on the board is all that really matters, a 90% childerhouse maintained lead is better than a swing thru darkside 70% every day of the week
maybe he could gain a few birds changing technique here and there but seriously dismissing a style completely is a bit over the top.
Quite right....it is scores on the doors.....however you do it.....!!
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Darkside doesn't shoot swing thru...it's not my opinion that matters, it's the results that not only Ben, George and the other Elite shooters consistently achieve, it's the results Ben's students have, Gebbin was over in England training with Ben before the world FITASC , a good few of the English internationals are coached by Ben, some don't mind it being public knowledge, some do, Ben has many international students winning national competitions, as you say, results count!!!
p.s. My scores/consistency in sporting/FITASC jumped dramatically after spending a day and a half with Ben, 70 may be my average, but my scores went from mid 60's to low 80's over night. Yes Chris Childerhouse is vastly more experienced and a much better shot than me, there's no surprise there, that's not the argument...he's been shooting clays for much, much longer than I have, just for starters...
p.s. My scores/consistency in sporting/FITASC jumped dramatically after spending a day and a half with Ben, 70 may be my average, but my scores went from mid 60's to low 80's over night. Yes Chris Childerhouse is vastly more experienced and a much better shot than me, there's no surprise there, that's not the argument...he's been shooting clays for much, much longer than I have, just for starters...
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sorry it wasnt a dig at you personally just more of a reminder to all that the method used isnt the biggest factor in results.
i had a day with ben this year and i will admit that he helped me improve consistency on some types of targets as i have pretty much always shot maintained / chop.
the targets that i have found it helped the most were driven and quartering, at the moment i get better consistancy shooting my old methods on the other stuff.
i still cant mount behind or on a crosser, it just doesnt feel right for me. horses for courses.
i had a day with ben this year and i will admit that he helped me improve consistency on some types of targets as i have pretty much always shot maintained / chop.
the targets that i have found it helped the most were driven and quartering, at the moment i get better consistancy shooting my old methods on the other stuff.
i still cant mount behind or on a crosser, it just doesnt feel right for me. horses for courses.
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You enjoy your shooting Darky.......it takes a long time to walk any road.....and there are lots of good times along the way....loads of ups and downs, loads of people who help.....and with a bit of luck you make good pals and plenty of jollies abroad. Then at the end of all that you may / will get some 'gongs'. (Wink).
As for the lovely Gebben, there is a big difference between 'training with' and 'coaching'. I am not sure that Ben is saying that he has coached Gebben to his 2012 World FITASC title. But I know that Henry Hopking definitely did work with Gebben.
As for the lovely Gebben, there is a big difference between 'training with' and 'coaching'. I am not sure that Ben is saying that he has coached Gebben to his 2012 World FITASC title. But I know that Henry Hopking definitely did work with Gebben.
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