Blackstar Ninja
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http://www.gamebore.com/products/38/12g-velocity-plus
decent fibre wad?
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Will Hewland
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Hmm. Nice repackage. Interesting.
Blackstar Ninja
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Seem to be a response to Eley having repackaged the Firsts but with an added bit of speed 1400 to 1410 which I can't see making that much difference?
Maxum
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Fiocchi F black Fibre work for me.
Finners
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I guess it's another one of those "too many variables to be able to give a definitive answer" type questions.
Eg, Will Hewland has pointedly damned Hull Superfasts, whereas I and others really rate them. Oddly, I tried his beloved Velocities and was not too keen. They are a good shell ie they do work, but I found them to be both punchy and very dirty. (Not trying to pick a fight with you Will, just making a point mate)
The confetti issue can of course be down to the relative humidity in which the carts are stored. Certainly I have noticed far less of this now the temperatures have climbed. And "punchy" is a very subjective issue. Patterning and suitability to your specific gun/chokes/needs ie cleanliness and costs are why I tested out a range of options.
So, my take on this is you might be better off trying (at least) a few slabs of various carts through your own gun, and try to determine for yourself which best suits you. This is what I have done over the last couple of years. And based on my own personal preference (and experience - I've not tried them all) Hull Superfasts came out on top overall for me. (Caesar G Challenger, tend to shoot mostly open chokes, rarely go beyond half)
Others I rather liked included the Gamebore Evos and Fiocchi F Black. I discounted the F Black based on the extra cost and relative availability, and the Evo's because I find the Superfasts are a tad cleaner and a few quid cheaper whilst being at least as effective on their principle purpose in life.
A pal of mine was totally married to his Eley VIP's, swore blind he'd never use anything else, used them for years and years. A few months ago he ran out and had a slab of Superfasts from me. He now uses them all the time, saves around £60-70 a thousand and his scores have not altered........ if anything he's shooting slightly better. (Browning GTI Ultra with extended Briley chokes)
Eg, Will Hewland has pointedly damned Hull Superfasts, whereas I and others really rate them. Oddly, I tried his beloved Velocities and was not too keen. They are a good shell ie they do work, but I found them to be both punchy and very dirty. (Not trying to pick a fight with you Will, just making a point mate)
The confetti issue can of course be down to the relative humidity in which the carts are stored. Certainly I have noticed far less of this now the temperatures have climbed. And "punchy" is a very subjective issue. Patterning and suitability to your specific gun/chokes/needs ie cleanliness and costs are why I tested out a range of options.
So, my take on this is you might be better off trying (at least) a few slabs of various carts through your own gun, and try to determine for yourself which best suits you. This is what I have done over the last couple of years. And based on my own personal preference (and experience - I've not tried them all) Hull Superfasts came out on top overall for me. (Caesar G Challenger, tend to shoot mostly open chokes, rarely go beyond half)
Others I rather liked included the Gamebore Evos and Fiocchi F Black. I discounted the F Black based on the extra cost and relative availability, and the Evo's because I find the Superfasts are a tad cleaner and a few quid cheaper whilst being at least as effective on their principle purpose in life.
A pal of mine was totally married to his Eley VIP's, swore blind he'd never use anything else, used them for years and years. A few months ago he ran out and had a slab of Superfasts from me. He now uses them all the time, saves around £60-70 a thousand and his scores have not altered........ if anything he's shooting slightly better. (Browning GTI Ultra with extended Briley chokes)
Will Hewland
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Thank Gawd for choice, as folk do have different perceptions and findings with their own guns. There is no substitute for trying a few different shells out for yourself. Its great when you feel you have it nailed and can just get on and shoot.
Ian Lawrence
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What's that like Will? Have you reached Clay Shooting Nirvana?
Blackstar Ninja
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Nirvana!... It's so tempting to make a tasteless inappropriate joke! But seriously individual trial and error is probably the best way
