Broken clay hits full target

[evoracer]

today a piece of broken clay smashed the 2nd target in the pair 

what should be called?

TIA 

ER

 

[Rupert]

Pair dead.

 

[evoracer]

Pair dead.

​Thank you my thought exactly. 

not my targets but at a registered ESP I would have hoped the trapper would know better.

nope "pair again" the gentleman shooting misses the first hits the second.

"Miss, Kill"

 

[Rupert]

​Thank you my thought exactly. 

not my targets but at a registered ESP I would have hoped the trapper would know better.

nope "pair again" the gentleman shooting misses the first hits the second.

"Miss, Kill"

I believe this to be wrong,but I and not 100%,would argue toss.

​

 

[Rupert]

Have been given pair dead in these circumstances many times.

 

[AW13]

a couple of weeks ago a sim  looper and a crosser happened to cross paths and the shooter killed both with 1 shot -  it was called as kill/kill, I think the above should be the same.

 

[Michael]

Pair killed.

 

[jasper]

The definition in the rules is a target is hit when it is chipped or destroyed or seen to have holes in caused by the competitors shot (not erroneous bits of clay)

Therefore pair again nothing established. (Sim pairs) In effect the second target is a no bird.

Ref correct.

 

[Will Hewland]

Read the CPSA rules. Why does nobody do this ?

 

[jasper]

Play the game know your rules. Booklet 7.   Point 7.17.11

 

[EdSolomons]

As above, ref correct. If the clay is broken by a component of the cartridge (including the wad) it is a kill.

if it breaks from a bit of clay, branch, stone etc... No bird pair again.

 

[Jim Wheeler]

   Evo,  depends on if it is a `sim` pair or on report.

 

[Rupert]

As above, ref correct. If the clay is broken by a component of the cartridge (including the wad) it is a kill.

if it breaks from a bit of clay, branch, stone etc... No bird pair again.

​Is it first bird established in this case then?

 

[jasper]

Depends if its sim pair or on report pair. Fail to see how a piece of broken clay can break the second target if its report pairs..

Hence pair again .nothing established.

 

[westley]

I think  it depends on the shot size being used !  :angel:

 

[chippy]

today a piece of broken clay smashed the 2nd target in the pair 

what should be called?

TIA 

ER

​sounds like witchcraft to me .good job it didnt happen here in norfolk or you would be in the ducking stool.

 

[Mark Jones]

Sim= pair again!nothing established, On Report= first bird scored pair again

 

[Hamster]

It really would be witch craft if it happens on report.  :lol:

 

[Mark Jones]

It really would be witch craft if it happens on report.  :lol:

Bloody good point that !