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17 hours ago, Cheshiremillie said:

I reckon the Tolerances on the H bolt are pretty tight from the factory. Gun gets shot and the barrel gets pretty hot causing expansion. That heat, albeit it less pronounced will also be causing some expansion in the action as well. So you will then have two interlocking wedge shaped parts of the gun expanding and therefore binding together. When gun cools down then the metal contracts and the top lever works normally again. We are probably talking about a couple of thousandths that needs to be filed off the H block. It’s an easy job for a gunsmith but requires the action to be disassembled so should take ac couple of hours max. I recently had the same problem that you have but with a Miroku. Sent back to Browning via the dealer and was back within a week. Did you buy the gun used or new?

Gun is new, your suggestion is certainly a sensible one, I know a very skilled gunsmith, in whom I have the utmost confidence, and rather than returning the gun under warranty, I may ask him to look at it.

2 hours ago, jason king said:

try red brake grease, meant for car brakes it does work good on actions , I use it on my miroku , obviously itsdesigned for use on really hot car brake parts so easily works on a hot action,I use it on the knuckle side faces and bolt,ejectors get light oil .

Thankyou for that, could be the easiest and most straightforward solution, although the gun was sparingly lubricated before shooting it.

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1 hour ago, jwpzx9r said:

The H bolt in a Perazzi is made of a steel that is softer than the hardened steel of the lugs on the monoblock. The idea is that the H bolt wears and is cheap and easily replaced. So actually the H bolt should be exactly as you say it should not be.

I have no idea how the metal used in a cheap Turkish knock off relate to each other... or if they even thought about that?

Your last sentence sums up my feelings pretty accurately-I agree with the analogy of cheap Turkish knock off!!! 😉 i was being a little optimistic in thinking that a gun costing less than £1500 would have the pedigree or provenance of one costing upwards of £9-£10k, subconsciously I knew  it wasn’t a Perazzi, so it’s shortcomings weren’t too much of a surprise!! 

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12 hours ago, jwpzx9r said:

The H bolt in a Perazzi is made of a steel that is softer than the hardened steel of the lugs on the monoblock. The idea is that the H bolt wears and is cheap and easily replaced. So actually the H bolt should be exactly as you say it should not be.

I have no idea how the metal used in a cheap Turkish knock off relate to each other... or if they even thought about that?

Actually, there's nothing cheap about the way they are made, but they are cheaper copies.

The fit and finish is excellent and the materials used are of high quality.

If you want to buy a cheap gun, they do sell them, but they make good ones too.

On 4/2/2021 at 10:48 AM, ColinD said:

^^ I wish you'd remove the oversize speed check 😉

Eh?

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20 hours ago, Skeet UK said:

Actually, there's nothing cheap about the way they are made, but they are cheaper copies.

The fit and finish is excellent and the materials used are of high quality.

If you want to buy a cheap gun, they do sell them, but they make good ones too.

Eh?

Never seen one to be fair BUT they are cheap and they are a knock off... Fk knows what is going to happen when the Chinese start to knock out copies of all Marques ... if they aren't already doing so.

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Its wrong to say they are a "knock off". Cheaper sounds about right. I suspect cheaper maybe good enough but each to their own.

Its a "Boss" action which is used (copied) by numerous other high-end gun manufacturers including Perazzi, Zoli etc.

 

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21 minutes ago, Freddypip said:

Its wrong to say they are a "knock off". Cheaper sounds about right. I suspect cheaper maybe good enough but each to their own.

Its a "Boss" action which is used (copied) by numerous other high-end gun manufacturers including Perazzi, Zoli etc.

 

There are indeed quite a few gunmakers using that action style. 

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19 hours ago, jwpzx9r said:

Never seen one to be fair BUT they are cheap and they are a knock off... Fk knows what is going to happen when the Chinese start to knock out copies of all Marques ... if they aren't already doing so.

Well the basic one is Beretta SP money, £1500, then a bit more for adjustable, a bit more for grade 4 wood and, a bit more for grade 5 which is special order, mine was £1900.

So they aren't 'budget', but certainly are value for money.

Won A class with mine yesterday 😁

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On 4/1/2021 at 9:45 PM, ColinD said:

Didn't Beretta have a similar problem with the gun not opening with one of their models, their's was something to do with the lever if I recall

Last year at the local shooting ground a bit of a crowd had gathered around a lad with a newish Beretta 686 which had jammed. As both barrels had just been fired the gun was deemed safe and various shooters were attempting to open it. I suggested that it was put in the gun rack at the stand and left for 10 minutes or so. After doing this, the gun opened easily. I got the lad to bring it back to the car park where I had my gun First Aid kit in my car. I took off the barrels applied some grease to the knuckles and the bites, re-assembled it and off he went. He came to me later to say the gun had been fine for the rest of the shoot. I have also seen Browning/Miroku's with a similar problem, due to a simple lack of lubrication of the essential bits.  I use the Lucas red tacky grease off Ebay, a tub of that at around £7 will last a lifetime. It is designed for boat engine and prop lubrication, it stays where it is put. I use it on all but my semi auto guns.

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24 minutes ago, westley said:

Last year at the local shooting ground a bit of a crowd had gathered around a lad with a newish Beretta 686 which had jammed. As both barrels had just been fired the gun was deemed safe and various shooters were attempting to open it. I suggested that it was put in the gun rack at the stand and left for 10 minutes or so. After doing this, the gun opened easily. I got the lad to bring it back to the car park where I had my gun First Aid kit in my car. I took off the barrels applied some grease to the knuckles and the bites, re-assembled it and off he went. He came to me later to say the gun had been fine for the rest of the shoot. I have also seen Browning/Miroku's with a similar problem, due to a simple lack of lubrication of the essential bits.  I use the Lucas red tacky grease off Ebay, a tub of that at around £7 will last a lifetime. It is designed for boat engine and prop lubrication, it stays where it is put. I use it on all but my semi auto guns.

The wrong type of grease can have similar results also

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On 4/5/2021 at 9:05 PM, Charliedog said:

The wrong type of grease can have similar results also

I guess I must be using the 'right' type then  !

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