Geordieboy
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I think I have a Cylinder, 2 x 1/4, 2 x 1/2, and a 3/4.
Cylinder it is then.
Cylinder it is then.
Fibre Wad or Choke change?
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Will Hewland
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Cyl and 1/4 and leave it. Just barrel select for the pair presented. I bet you still get great kills everywhere. Your cartridges are basically trap ones and will pattern roughly a half choke tighter than an average sporting 8 shot cartridge.
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Geordieboy
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Thing is my Mk38 trap doesn't have selectable barrels. I was shooting at a rather fast and long (80yd) Battue on Saturday and my half choke was breaking it a treat. Will Quarter choke not blow out that far away? I suppose the only on way to figure that out is to try it!
Now I have no doubt about the battue you shot, but I would question the distance you quote, I have seen a skeet choke dust a 65 yard clay. There is a lot of BS around chokes and patterns - all of which have been discussed before, suffice to say that most of what people think happens doesn't - not completely.
To the OP - stick with half & half and 1 cartridge, if you are missing dinner plates it is probably more likely to be technique and not the pattern, I have never seen RF or GD stick a different shell in when shooting sporting and they have very tight choked guns.
To the OP - stick with half & half and 1 cartridge, if you are missing dinner plates it is probably more likely to be technique and not the pattern, I have never seen RF or GD stick a different shell in when shooting sporting and they have very tight choked guns.
Geordieboy
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I stand corrected then sir.
It was a bloody long way!!!
ilot:
As everybody tells me and I think I know myself. Improve my technique!
It was a bloody long way!!!
ilot: As everybody tells me and I think I know myself. Improve my technique!
Geordieboy
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Well I shot at Barby last night with 2 x 1/4 chokes. I shot a 24/30 which is respectable for me and there was a nasty edgy incomer and another edgy tower bird going away. I broke everything I hit but most noticeably was the rabbit. Crunching kills with 1/4 choke each time. The edgy birds broke but were a bit 'chippy'. Next round I shot 20/30, but that was just down to bad habits creeping back in. Kills on full face birds were dusting and I smashed the edgy birds, with no change to sight picture.
I have decided I will stick with my 1/2 chokes and 1 shell. I like the dusting I get when I connect. It gives me confidence in the stand. 1/4 choke broke everything very well......so did 1/2 choke. Its my technique I have to keep working on.
I have decided I will stick with my 1/2 chokes and 1 shell. I like the dusting I get when I connect. It gives me confidence in the stand. 1/4 choke broke everything very well......so did 1/2 choke. Its my technique I have to keep working on.
Will Hewland
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There is nothing more important (with chokes and carts) than your head being at peace with the combination.
Geordieboy
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Shot at Barby on Saturday and shot at 27/30 which matches my personal best there. There were 2 close incomers (15-20 yd'ish), 1 edgy and curling, the other full face and dropping like a stone. I dusted them all with the 2 x 1/2 chokes and Fiocchi Golden traps.
Technique matters!
Technique matters!
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Fantastic read thank you guys. I am a couple of months in and trialling various things whilst being at complete peace with my gun, a DT10L with adj stock. I love it to bits and every day is a school day at the moment.
I tried some B&P green core and Fiocchi Rossa, both plas on Saturday @ Park Lodge, mainly Skeet but did a tour round stands, inc some long driven towers.
I was shocked at the kill rate of the B&P through a cylinder choke, running the Fio through a skeet choke didn’t give me as good a result but both scored well beyond my normal game. To the extent I felt I could barely miss with the B&P cylinder combo. This got me thinking that if choke actually deforms a good plas wad? Which possibly cups and patters well without choke constriction?
On Sunday I kept same chokes, grinning from ear to ear with B&P green core fibre wads on a local close quarters 50 clay shoot, expecting to hit most things. I couldn’t hit a damn thing, despite some occasionally good aims, and they must have been too big a pattern spread. Half way round I went to half choke and started killing things.
I have heard people say 1/4 choke difference from plas to fibre but in all honesty it felt more like 1/2 choke difference at the weekend. The plas shooting far tighter through cylinder than ever expected and the fibre needing half choke to match it.
I have a lot to learn and lot to improve but appreciate opinions on if choke actually improves plas wads patterns? Or deforms them?
I am in no doubt that fibre needs lots of choke.
Written respectfully from a novice, so treat me gently ;-).
I tried some B&P green core and Fiocchi Rossa, both plas on Saturday @ Park Lodge, mainly Skeet but did a tour round stands, inc some long driven towers.
I was shocked at the kill rate of the B&P through a cylinder choke, running the Fio through a skeet choke didn’t give me as good a result but both scored well beyond my normal game. To the extent I felt I could barely miss with the B&P cylinder combo. This got me thinking that if choke actually deforms a good plas wad? Which possibly cups and patters well without choke constriction?
On Sunday I kept same chokes, grinning from ear to ear with B&P green core fibre wads on a local close quarters 50 clay shoot, expecting to hit most things. I couldn’t hit a damn thing, despite some occasionally good aims, and they must have been too big a pattern spread. Half way round I went to half choke and started killing things.
I have heard people say 1/4 choke difference from plas to fibre but in all honesty it felt more like 1/2 choke difference at the weekend. The plas shooting far tighter through cylinder than ever expected and the fibre needing half choke to match it.
I have a lot to learn and lot to improve but appreciate opinions on if choke actually improves plas wads patterns? Or deforms them?
I am in no doubt that fibre needs lots of choke
.Written respectfully from a novice, so treat me gently ;-).
Martinj
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Sounds as if you are having a great time, keep it up.
In my early days of shooting I would never be able to shoot well after a particularly good day's shooting, it was as if my brain was saying to me that I've got it cracked and now I don't have to try so hard - with predictable results.
It's not all about chokes but more about being confident with your choice, so your choke/cartridge combination is important in more ways than one.
In my early days of shooting I would never be able to shoot well after a particularly good day's shooting, it was as if my brain was saying to me that I've got it cracked and now I don't have to try so hard - with predictable results.
It's not all about chokes but more about being confident with your choice, so your choke/cartridge combination is important in more ways than one.
agreed with above. not on clays but on pigeons at the weekend i tried a box of e j churchill 30g/6 fibre after using
my usual fiocchi pigeon 32g/6 and my kill ratio on live birds went down by around 25%, went back to my usual plastic wads and service was restored to normal levels of kills. i did get the feling that they were a lot looser after a few pricked birds. shooting mk38 1/4 + 3/8.
my usual fiocchi pigeon 32g/6 and my kill ratio on live birds went down by around 25%, went back to my usual plastic wads and service was restored to normal levels of kills. i did get the feling that they were a lot looser after a few pricked birds. shooting mk38 1/4 + 3/8.
