Doctor Lecter
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apologies if this has been explained , but I've noticed a few top shots with adj combs set at a angle as opposed to horizontal straight . ?
Expect it is to make the comb the same drop along it’s length so that it doesn’t matter where you mount your cheek on the stock it will be at the same height in relation to the rib.apologies if this has been explained , but I've noticed a few top shots with adj combs set at a angle as opposed to horizontal straight . ?
That’s opened up a can of worms is someone suggesting the designers stockers of trap guns vs sporting or game guns have got it wrong all these years and stock set up has nothing to do with point of impact if so I am not convincedHave a look on www.gunlore.com
It debunks a few myths about gunfit as well as having more useful information about shooting in general.
What it's saying is quite simple really and is easily proved by shooting a pattern plate or a straight away target. That is, the position of the eye above the rib will not, within reason, determine where the pattern is placed. What's important is that the comb isn't too low and that you're looking at the target. Your hands will follow your eyes and the target will be hit.That’s opened up a can of worms is someone suggesting the designers stockers of trap guns vs sporting or game guns have got it wrong all these years and stock set up has nothing to do with point of impact if so I am not convinced
A lot of sporting shooters use unmodified trap guns, ignore the choke argument, and shoot very well with them.That is, the position of the eye above the rib will not, within reason, determine where the pattern is placed. What's important is that the comb isn't too low and that you're looking at the target. Your hands will follow your eyes and the target will be hit.
IMO - total bunkWhat it's saying is quite simple really and is easily proved by shooting a pattern plate or a straight away target. That is, the position of the eye above the rib will not, within reason, determine where the pattern is placed. What's important is that the comb isn't too low and that you're looking at the target. Your hands will follow your eyes and the target will be hit.
That comb height determines pattern placement is one of those myths that have been perpetuated by so many they've eventually been accepted as fact, often by those that don't really understand how we shoot moving targets with a shotgun.
Anyway, this one's been discussed in detail before. Read the article if you wish, whether you accept it or not is up to you.
First clay lesson I ever had was with 1970’s 28 inch barrel 3800 with Monte Carlo choked skeet and skeet, I was greatly looking forward to my Olympic gold after that first lesson!One of my 'Club Guns' was an old Miroku 3800 trap gun, fitted (as standard) with a Monte Carlo (parallel comb) stock. I can NEVER, in 17 years of having the gun, remember anyone shooting badly with it, regardless of their experience. In fact there were probably more 25 DTL straights shot with it than I care to remember. I also saw a lot of very good scores on the Compact layout, with the same gun ! A lot of adjustable comb shooters tried to copy the same stock set up on their own guns.
Really ? I think that people have a hope that because someone says something it instils confidence. If I went to Perazzi with my gun and they said NO! NO! NO! it should be like this... I would politely decline their kind offer of assistance. Everybody has a list of priorities seeing the target is my first.Gun fit is an all encompassing set of criteria and comb height is, to me and seemingly most of the shooting world, one of the most critical.
This!I think gun fit is 95% about comfort, both in your body stance and with recoil.
Yes, comb height does change from person to person because target perception is different from person to person. I work with a lot of top shooters and this is why I pay very little attention to what they say is going on on a patterning board and far more attention to where the rubber meets the road. I've seen AA Trap shooters that mysteriously can't come close to hitting a dot on a patterning board. Why is that? Well, there are several reasons, by I chalk it up to target perception mostly. Drop at comb is by far the most important stock dimension...the rest is mostly comfort.Comb height IS important but also very personal, it has at least as much to do with one's preferred "sight picture" as any perceived POI effect. Yes POI can be raised or lowered geometrically speaking but in English sporting at any rate the main contribution of adj combs is to dial in the right sight pic and recoil phase.
Just goes to show that the "figure 8" being an essential sight picture is pure myth....because it is.On my Parallel Target i see masses of rib you could stack 3 maybe 4 pound coins on the rear of the barrel,shoot as well with it as my other guns
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