cheddite 2 shots trap 24g
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My prospective club uses them and they sponsored a comp last Sunday , I,m deffo going to try some myself
Try as many different shells as you can,until you find one that suits you,your gun and your discipline.
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Cheers Les ..will do and thanks for that piece of sound advice
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Blackstar Ninja
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Tried the 2shot Skeet and IMHO didn't feel they make much if any difference for the price. you can hit or miss just as well with these or a standard skeet shell but if your head tells you the trap version will make a difference then they might!
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Blackstar Ninja
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Seen that on the advertising blurb but not seen or heard which competitors were actually using them?
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Two shot sizes either 7&7.5 and 9.5 &10 in the same cartridge. As long as the shots the right shape and the cartridge is the correct overall weight under the competition rules for Olympic trap or skeet I can't see why they wouldn't be comp legal? But supposedly having the two shot sizes in the same cartridge does something to the shot string or pattern? Perhaps a wiser man/woman than I can explain the ballistics behind it all?
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In an earlier Olympics (in 70's I think), a Russian competitor used what are referred to as "stratified" cartridges. These are cartridges built with layers of shot, of different sizes. This was deemed naughty.
As these are available to all competitors now, they are not naughty and nowhere in the rules does it say that shot sizes must of uniform size ...shape yes, size no.
The purpose of them, as has been said, is to lengthen the shot string. Because the heavier shot maintains velocity better, than the smaller shot, you get a longer shot string. Obviously you still alteration of the pattern due to deformation and position in the shot column etc, as you would expect (which is what the shot string would normally be formed by), but the smaller shot adds to this to help fill in the gaps.
As these are available to all competitors now, they are not naughty and nowhere in the rules does it say that shot sizes must of uniform size ...shape yes, size no.
The purpose of them, as has been said, is to lengthen the shot string. Because the heavier shot maintains velocity better, than the smaller shot, you get a longer shot string. Obviously you still alteration of the pattern due to deformation and position in the shot column etc, as you would expect (which is what the shot string would normally be formed by), but the smaller shot adds to this to help fill in the gaps.
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jake.keeling
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Ah yes, that's what I thought it was. I have heard that they are illegal, but can't recall a specific rule or where it applies.
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Blackstar Ninja
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Sorted! Skeet Uk to the information rescue, thanks very much couldn't have explained that any better
Interesting concept, I'd heard about the Russian cartridges too. I wondered if anybody had tried them and if so what did you think. Without getting too technical as it would fry my brain, do they give a tighter pattern as the string is longer ? Or is it all such minor differences you don't notice in practise ?
Blackstar Ninja
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Dear god no! not another thread decending into shot string talk. Please someone anyone start a thread titled shot string
It was discovered long ago that shot takes a tear drop shape in flight, shot string refers to the elongated length of this pattern. Therefore the more it is elongated the less dense it has to become, useful in certain situations such as close skeet targets, less clever elsewhere.
Will Hewland
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IT IS of benefit or can be anyway on very close Skeet type targets particularly in the old days of 32g coupled to 9 shot. Having a bigger margin of error on very fast close targets such as Olympic Skeet is a good thing and there were specialist guns and barrels made that could prove advantageous but I believe they're no longer legal.
The longer the range though the less desirable less density becomes, this is why good shooters don't shoot Cylinder choke at edge on 40 yard teal because string or no string, less density leads to erratic breaks, the same choke at 20 yards would be dense enough, again string or no string.
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