I think FITASC had it back in the 80's, but I could be wrong! As it is right now it's little more than single trap OT but with hold points according to peg number. I would love to see the old BALL TRAP come back.May have been a dream (or nightmare - delete as appropriate) but I seem to recall that I heard FITASC may be taking it over ....allegedly
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Anyway, who the hell is it that decides such things? AND....why don't they consult any of us grass roots shooters BEFORE they change things?I hear rumours of further changes to abt target presentation, anyone know the full story ?
Well I hope that Pete Croft will sort the ABT , he knows well enough about how it used to be a good stepping stone between DTL and the faster stuff. Personally I can't see a problem with bringing back the arc to ABT and 24grm shells should not be a problem either. But Phil......what in the name of god is the Palinkas snake ???I've got a feeling wires might be getting crossed.
Peter Croft, President of BICTSF, was asked by FITASC in September 2013 to look at ABT rules, which as Automatic Trap, was an ISSF discipline but has been quietly dropped from their rule book. Allegedly he's finally produced something which is going to be demonstrated next month in Italy when the Palinkas 'snake' system for UT is going to be demonstrated too.
From what I've heard its proposed the distance and angles will be reduced, possibly shooting stands back on a arc and maybe even 24gm cartridges.
If approved then it'll become a new FITASC discipline, something simpler than UT.
I would humbly disagree that more will shoot it. Our last club comp had 79 competitors to shoot 100 targets each over the day introduce that "snake" cack and you will cut the numbers not increase them! They may introduce it at international level bat I see very few club down here that would want to go down that road.Palinkas wants to do away with squads shooting UT and just have a continuous line of shooters going through. They've introduced it to Compak Sporting. His reasoning is it'll be quicker and therefore a greater number of entries could be taken. This of course means that FITASC will make more lovely money and sod the shooters.
Ah, thanks Phil. Sounds barmy, well unless you are the one getting the cash of course. Lets hope they leave UT alone and give us our ball trap back.Palinkas wants to do away with squads shooting UT and just have a continuous line of shooters going through. They've introduced it to Compak Sporting. His reasoning is it'll be quicker and therefore a greater number of entries could be taken. This of course means that FITASC will make more lovely money and sod the shooters.
When Palinkas tried to bulldozer it through the UT Technical Commission in 2013 by threatening us we all resigned en masse with the exception of the Italian member. The members of the TC are all shooters and realised the effect his harebrained notion would have on UT. Numbers are falling because the entry fee at €210 is exceedingly expensive when there's no prize money or article prizes and just the cheapest of the cheap cups it means the events aren't good value for shooters. Unfortunately Palinkas can't grasp that, and doesn't like hearing the message he's wrong, especially when it is done so publicly as we did it.I would humbly disagree that more will shoot it. Our last club comp had 79 competitors to shoot 100 targets each over the day introduce that "snake" cack and you will cut the numbers not increase them! They may introduce it at international level bat I see very few club down here that would want to go down that road.
he may well have placated the UT TC regarding Morocco. Now all he has to do is persuade the competitors to go! This family 'TC' is definitely sitting firmly on the fence at present, as are a lot of other potential team members. The prospect of plane, airport, coach, hotel, coach, shooting ground, coach, hotel, coach, shooting ground, coach, hotel, shooting ground, coach, airport, plane, home doesn't fill me will glee I must say.Goody bags are provided by the federstion or shooting ground and I agree mostly they're carp.
The only reason the FITASC bigwig Palinkas jetted in for one day was he'd been informed the Technical Commission had chucked out the proposal of the World Championships to be in Morocco next year. He managed to placate them with an offer of coaches being provided from the airport to hotels and daily transport from hotels to the shooting range. He even mentioned providing armed guards front and rear on each one.
He only shows his face at UT events when there trouble. Having spent ten years on the TC I'm well versed with his antics.
We shot the World Champs in Tangier in 2007, Kevin Borley won with a 199, straight up to his 196th target. The shooting ground was fabulous, once you left the shooting ground and the electric security gates closed behind you the rest of it was pretty awful.he may well have placated the UT TC regarding Morocco. Now all he has to do is persuade the competitors to go! This family 'TC' is definitely sitting firmly on the fence at present, as are a lot of other potential team members. The prospect of plane, airport, coach, hotel, coach, shooting ground, coach, hotel, coach, shooting ground, coach, hotel, shooting ground, coach, airport, plane, home doesn't fill me will glee I must say.
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