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I remember those mate but could not afford them, fred will still have a box of em I bet you a pound he does .... any takers ?

 
They were called black paper jobby things mate, that's it.

 
Were they not the early VIPs they used to be a black case.

I have never shot paper case but i seem to remember that they are supposed to be superior to plastic, something to do with the expansion of the case.

40up or salop will know.

 
Were they not the early VIPs they used to be a black case.

I have never shot paper case but i seem to remember that they are supposed to be superior to plastic, something to do with the expansion of the case.

40up or salop will know.
Yeah - there's gonna be a big difference between waxed/compressed paper and plastic at a 10,000psi spike   :sarcastichand:

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Do i detect a hint of sarcasm, i cant tell for sure because of your American accent.

 
Were they not the early VIPs they used to be a black case.

I have never shot paper case but i seem to remember that they are supposed to be superior to plastic, something to do with the expansion of the case.

40up or salop will know.
Nah.......they were way before VIP's mate, they may have been called Olympic Gold or something, only Fred will know. So how about it Fred? What were they called?

 
Back from my travels now, Les has it. They bear the legend Ni/b for their nickel and brass shot coating. Such was the scale of the production run someone at Eley used a blue biro to alter the box label from 7 to 9 shot size.

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Les, think of another we will catch him out yet :)

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told you he would have some :)

 
Back from my travels now, Les has it. They bear the legend Ni/b for their nickel and brass shot coating. Such was the scale of the production run someone at Eley used a blue biro to alter the box label from 7 to 9 shot size.

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Yes Fred, they are the ones, I liked them.......but within five minutes of me trying them they could not be had any more!!! 

 
Les, think of another we will catch him out yet :)

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told you he would have some :)
Another good old shell, which cost a fortune and did not seem to be around for that long, was the Winchester Thunder Gold. I think they were about £160 a thousand back in the late 80's or early 90's. I used them for second tube at ball trap for a while, first barrel was Winchester Trap 200, probably the best trap load ever made, well in my opinion anyway!!!

 
Well Les I didn't believe you when you said there was an Olympic Gold in 32gm but when I was looking for the Trap 200 there they were.

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Bloody hell Fred! I hate to think what would happen if you had a fire!!

From what I remember trap 100's and 200's were a decent cartridge. I just think they looked like a cheap cartridge (poor printing, poor finish to the crimp, etc) by modern standards anyway.

DT

 
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Bloody hell Fred! I hate to think what would happen if you had a fire!!

From what I remember trap 100's and 200's were a decent cartridge. I just think they looked like a cheap cartridge (poor printing, poor finish to the crimp, etc) by modern standards anyway.

DT
He must have a sprinkler system in his shed Greg!!! Winchester shells as far as I remember, used compression formed cases, which a lot of others did not. Re loaders loved them because apparently they could be re loaded more times than ordinary shells. Winchester also used used ball powder that burned very clean and always seemed to be less affected by temperature and humidity than a lot of other shells.  :biggrin:

 
Well Les I didn't believe you when you said there was an Olympic Gold in 32gm but when I was looking for the Trap 200 there they were.

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This is like a trip down memory lane Fred! I think I used the 32grm Trap 200's for some time before I switched to the 28grm ones. I wish they still made those Trap 200's Fred!!!!! When a lot of us went over to 28grm, some changed to the Winchester Blue Light, but I never really got on with those. 

 
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