Guns with adjustable combs
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I have no wish to appear rude either but I think there are some seriously good shooters over here too, not to mention fitters, and they don't specialise in hitting going aways.
RobertBeard
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As a rifle shooter an adjustable cheekpiece's only useful purpose is to help you to align your aiming eye with the centre of the aperture or telescopic sights. The rear sight is used for adjusting shot placement. In rifle shooting the gun will be in exactly the same place in the shoulder every time.
Extrapolating this to shotguns I reckon it depends on how you mount your gun. If the gun goes in the shoulder in the same place every time then point of impact will remain the same. If the cheek piece is altered and mounted to the cheek first then the gun might sit in the shoulder differently which might cause a change in point of impact but this defeats the object of the adjustability as you want the same shoulder mount and a change in the alignment of the eye over the rib so no change in point of impact!
Just my few penneth!
Extrapolating this to shotguns I reckon it depends on how you mount your gun. If the gun goes in the shoulder in the same place every time then point of impact will remain the same. If the cheek piece is altered and mounted to the cheek first then the gun might sit in the shoulder differently which might cause a change in point of impact but this defeats the object of the adjustability as you want the same shoulder mount and a change in the alignment of the eye over the rib so no change in point of impact!
Just my few penneth!
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As we all know there are great shooters in all countries and there are great gunsmiths and fitters in all countries. Italy is blessed for gunsmiths. Portugal has the great Manuel Ricardo. The UK have some great ones.....but the real good ones are few and far between....but then....like everything else......people's experience and view is only based on their experience.
So.....if you find someone you like who does what you want to your guns in the way you want....then look after them.
So.....if you find someone you like who does what you want to your guns in the way you want....then look after them.
Will Hewland
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Just read the Alan Rhone paragraph, to see what the fuss is about. Completely agree with it (and have proven it to myself too). This will come as a huge relief to Alan Rhone..
Convention prevents us from speaking against oft repeated assumptions that are not necessarily correct, shooting is full of false facts.
I have been shooting for quite a while, but only started shooting clays over the last couple of years. What is interesting to me, is that from the outset I have thought that the main thing an adjustable comb could do was change your view of the target and I have stated that at the start and throughout this thread. I have read or heard little about the art of shotgun fit but I arrived at my take on the effect of comb height by observation and a bit of thought. Others may have done the same others have obviously read the myth and believed it. I suppose those with a different view will continue to believe what they want... fine that is their prerogative... I'll stick to mine everybody is happy 
Have a very Happy New-Year everybody best wishes for and good shooting throughout 2014!
Have a very Happy New-Year everybody best wishes for and good shooting throughout 2014!
Wonko the Sane
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Rather than try to say the same thing for the umpteenth time I would refer you to post#13 and the contrasts there relative to the Rhone quote.
again have a look at Yardley - he's the only one I have just off the top of my head but it seems like Carlisle had a few words too.
FWIW I can only say that over the last 24-25 years I've been around and shooting with people involved with ATA, skeet, sporting, OT, ABT, helice, and pigeons. Over that time I've never heard anyone ever voice a comment about gunfitting the likes of which have been posted in this thread. Nor have I ever before read such comments in any shooting publication or book.
If I believed what is seemingly a common opinion here I would be totally mystified as to the purpose of the adjustable everythings on some KG's and Perazzis. I mean, why bother adjusting anything of you have a nice view over the back of the action????
All y'all have a great New Year - be sane and come out the other side well and happy
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Well having had adjustable combs in the past i do not believe in there actual benefit unless you shoot with a rifle style. I spose there are many different styles of shooting and different methods and theory on gun fit. Its all interesting stuff.
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Well guys....I would not have a gun without one. Even if they come without one they very soon end up with one. The only one that has not got one at the minute is my favourite 20 bore MX8 34" trap for game shooting.....and that is because the wood is sooooooo very beautiful to cut into. Might get a separate stock made for it when I get a minute (and been saying that for 3 years as well.).
Paul120
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My experience is that once you've got the rib picture you feel comfortable with the rest is just fiddling. Xmm here or there makes no difference. I can see the benefit of an adjustable stock if it's cheaper than replacing a stock that is way off but no more than that. I've had guns that feel great when mounting them but unable to hit a bears arse with them even after spending loads of time adjusting/changing stocks etc and other guns that seem to be great even if I've fitted a sporting stock for trap. Like everyone else I've spent hours experimenting only to find I end up back where I started with the pound coin on the rib, As taught when I started shooting. I was also given that clay shooting has to be treated more of an art than a science and it's nearly impossible to repeat the same thing all the time and Unlike rifle shooting, the sight picture changes all the time.
Try this:- mount you gun and point down towards the floor at say 45deg, how much rib can you see? Now do the same up. I bet it's different.
In my mind it's the target picture as you pull the trigger that is important, the only way to do this is by learning them subconsciously/muscle memory/ feel/ magic/ (take your pick as to what the current sports psychologist wants to call it) that from what I can deduce from talking to the best shooters is usually referred to as; see it shoot it.The trouble is that we all want to beat the process, start to think consiously about it and want turn our guns into some sort of Excalibur preventing most of us from progressing.
Try this:- mount you gun and point down towards the floor at say 45deg, how much rib can you see? Now do the same up. I bet it's different.
In my mind it's the target picture as you pull the trigger that is important, the only way to do this is by learning them subconsciously/muscle memory/ feel/ magic/ (take your pick as to what the current sports psychologist wants to call it) that from what I can deduce from talking to the best shooters is usually referred to as; see it shoot it.The trouble is that we all want to beat the process, start to think consiously about it and want turn our guns into some sort of Excalibur preventing most of us from progressing.
