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Shocking news, I had the pleasure of shooting at Nuthampstead from the very days and benefitted from Martins tuition, a really lovely friendly man. RIP Martin

Is that the first time anybody has been DQ for overweight cartidges ? (understanding its hearsay at the moment regards DK) having watched them so many times getting cartidge samples taken its the first time ive heard of it ?

Thanks for all the advice, actually used alloy wheel cleaner on it and it came up really well. Better than the alloy wheels ! have to remember to clean it more in further. 

I use them all the time, great cartridge very smooth and consistent.

Thanks hamster I was thinking a blade of some sort. I will look into brake cleaner too. 

Hopefully somebody knows a quick fix for removing heavy carbon deposits that have built up on an extended choke. Whilst I've been diligent and regular cleaning the gun after each outing I haven't been as regular with the choke. Is there something I can dip it in to loosen it all off....? Thanks...

Apologies for the confusing post. Extended muller in first barrel fixed choke in second. I think mark is right it is just heavy carbon build up on the top of the choke. I will have to find some way of cleanin it up. Thanks a lot for the replies.

i use a muller choke in the first barrel, cleaning it the other day it is starting to look a bit worse for wear after all the second barrels have been fired. i presume the chokes are designed to stand up to being used in the first barrel only and so taking a bit of punishment ? thanks 

Thanks for all the advice, I Will do a bit of research and see what it's worth. Your right about advertising as many pictures as possible and give some colour whilst being honest about the condition.

How do you put a value a gun if you are thinking of selling it ? Is it a simple as following the trading sites to see what prices are being asked. There seems to be a clear idea of the value of guns from the forum members, is that long experience. I was asking as I have a citori high rib trap...

Apologies that should have read Bryn spellcheck !!

Bryan, drago skeet are great. Shot them at DT and OT as well as skeet. Nice long brass as well if or those of us that like the cartridge too look good ! Sure you'll like hem. Haven't tried UT 9 although i see a lot in the bins on the skeet layouts recently.

Just been watching the skeet men's final at the WCF AZE. I've never seen so many no birds !! Haven't watched the other events yet but it was amazing how many they had in the final. Not sure what caused it ? Traps, electronics ? Don't the ISSF have standards for equipment or is it more normal...

Apologies poor spelling from the nexus !

That feeling you get when everything is working and so effortless. All the things you have been taught work and the clyas disappear with seemingly no effort. A start that is all to short lived bit fantastic when you are in the fabled zone.

For that much money I'd expect the answer to "should I have a high bead on my high rib" ?

I've tended to find the opposite that a high rib gun feels a bit more natural and comfortable in the shoulder than flat rib. Mind you never tried a P gun my experience is purely browning and miroku. Ito add a little more into the thinking I have a strong suspicion that the extra weight of a rib...

When you go to a new ground do you always start the gun at the same height above then edge of the trench ? Or do you start with a horizontal gun whether your shooting over a trench or trap house ?

Thanks IPS I've been trying the look down approach, it does take a bit of getting used to initially. Thanks for the thoughts

Following on from the high rib thread there was a lot of talk about the technique required to shoot a high rib gun. The consensus of opinion seems to en that they offer far better visibility of the target. If that is the case why do they need a different technique to shoot them ? Thanks