Warm up stands at shoots.

[Rosso]

Many shooters travel long distances to shoots. To expect to be able to go straight into competion mode and shoot well I would think is difficult for most. It takes me a good couple of stands to get into the shoot by then I will have dropped some clays. Then I start thinking what's the point. Traveling all that way to put a poor score in on the first couple of stands it then effects the rest of the shoot.

Pool shoots are at some shoots and I do use these, but not everywhere.

Shoots should offer warm up stands especially at reg and big comps.

 

[Rupert]

Cant  use them in case it goes bad,setting the tone for the rest of the day

 

[ips]

agree with Rupert. Practice can in some circumstances be detrimental. I have given up on shooting practice rounds on Friday (yes I know that's different to the op) as it bears little resemblance to the actual event.

I am talking trap of course.

ps

that was trap not crap

 

[Will Hewland]

I mentioned this once before. Pool shoots are tough, so aren't always what is needed and can work against you. If practical, it would be great to have a stand where there are maybe three traps, two steady targets and one firmer.  £3 for 12 clays of your choice.

 

[Hamster]

I agree with Will, a well set up Pool stand is going to be very difficult to straight, breaks will tend to be chippy too so hardly likely to make you confident. I tend to leave them for the end of the day or avoid them altogether because they seem to attract specialist single minded folk who'll often blase away £40 quids worth trying to secure the pot. I always think you can learn more by investing that money into another round or going to another shoot. 

The simple answer is to make sure you start on a soft stand that you know suits you. If that's not possible and you find yourself in a group of friends/shooters then you just have to get into comp mode and accept that they are in the same boat as well.

 

[Rosso]

Not sure what Rupert or Ian are on about.  Warm up stand is not practice. It's just to get you into the rythem of shooting after a long drive, get acclimatised to the weather if cold and foul. May be even wake up.

Why can't the comp card be shot as re-entry shooting a practice card first. Why not have as many goes as you like with one card counting. Of course having to put the cards in before purchasing another one. That's what happens at open shoots you can just tear up you card and buy another one if no good but can only put one card in.

Warm up stands would increase revenue for the ground and benefit the shooter, may be even see standards of scores rising. Novices / spectators-could also have ago might get more people into shooting.

 

[Jaykaysea]

You can always ask to clear you gun on your first stand....I travel a lot with my gun broken down so nice to know I've put it together properly...

Alternatively invest some time and effort into your pre shot routine and see if that helps...I am doing exactly that as I suffer from the same starting slowly problem...will write more on another thread once I have gathered my thoughts on the subject of my two new favourite men..... :wink:

 

[Nick Selby]

A warm up stand is a good idea. Before I play golf, I usually go on the driving range\practice putting green otherwise I end up making a mess of the first couple of holes. Also as Will suggested, it is a good way for a ground to generate a bit more income.

 

[Paul120]

Why can't the comp card be shot as re-entry shooting a practice card first. Why not have as many goes as you like with one card counting. Of course having to put the cards in before purchasing another one. That's what happens at open shoots you can just tear up you card and buy another one if no good but can only put one card in.

Then the comp wouldn't be fair as those with limited funds.

Look at open shoots.. not often won by the best shooter. Just the most persistent with deep pockets.

 12 stand shoot means that there's only 24 targets to  work out how to shoot.

The skill is trying to assess by  seeing them before you step into the cage how to hit them. Then put it into practice and reassing on the repeated targets if it doesn't go to plan. 

To keep repeating is great for practice but not for comp imo. 

To just loosen everyone up. and to keep it fair,  a simple warm up stand limited to 2 or 3 pairs included in the entry fee may help blow the cobwebs away. but I don't see much benefit over doing a couple of warm up streaching and some dry mounting. (In the designated dry mount area of course!)

 

[Ocean19]

I've thought about this for ages. What other sports do you just rock up and start? I can't think of any. Like the guy says, golfers practice their swing and watch pros and they practice on a practice ground putting and chipping etc.  Sprinters, practice a couple of starts and generally limber up. Tennis players knock the ball to each other and practice serves. 

A couple of stands with 4 or 5 traps set up for different birds would suffice. I would pays few quid. I wouldn't want to shoot a lot, maybe 25 before a 100 ESP, but it would get me into the rhythm and frame of mind.

 

[Will Hewland]

The nearest I have got is doing a pool shoot, but detaching my mind from kills or score. It's not always easy to do, but did this well at RBSS last summer. Probably hit 50% on it and walked off without asking or looking, but I was thinking about how well the gun was feeling in my shoulder only. I then shot the real course pretty well.

 

[unplugged]

Just for reference, over on this side of the pond, we almost always have a "warm up" set up. They are set like a 5 stand with 5 or more traps, and the menu is the same for every stand. Normally around 18 shots (9 report and 9 true), no rotating, just pick a stand and shoot the 18 targets for somewhere around 5 to 8 dollars..

One course that doesn't have enough traps to do that just sets his Trap house on FULL WOBBLE and throws a few targets for couple of dollars..

 

[Skeet UK]

One of our local shoots, usually has a warm up or try stand, with a pot for donations. Only a simple going away target, so not ideal for experienced shots, but better than nothing.

 

[PhilS]

I must admit, I would benefit from some kind of warm up.

As Will said, something to settle in with but not bother about what you hit. Just to get into the swing of shooting a few (pun intended?)

 

[Chris Bubb]

You can always ask to clear you gun on your first stand....I travel a lot with my gun broken down so nice to know I've put it together properly...

Alternatively invest some time and effort into your pre shot routine and see if that helps...I am doing exactly that as I suffer from the same starting slowly problem...will write more on another thread once I have gathered my thoughts on the subject of my two new favourite men..... :wink:

​Jen, do you actually shoot at the targets on offer or just fire into the air.If you do shoot at the targets I would suggest that is against the rules.

 

[Rosso]

Then the comp wouldn't be fair as those with limited funds.

Look at open shoots.. not often won by the best shooter. Just the most persistent with deep pockets.

 12 stand shoot means that there's only 24 targets to  work out how to shoot.

The skill is trying to assess by  seeing them before you step into the cage how to hit them. Then put it into practice and reassing on the repeated targets if it doesn't go to plan. 

To keep repeating is great for practice but not for comp imo. 

To just loosen everyone up. and to keep it fair,  a simple warm up stand limited to 2 or 3 pairs included in the entry fee may help blow the cobwebs away. but I don't see much benefit over doing a couple of warm up streaching and some dry mounting. (In the designated dry mount area of course!)

Most sports are not fair on those with limited funds. A lot of shooters manage to cram in 2-3 shoots in one day or over a weekend so no shortage of money here. 

Having a warm up or being able to buy two cards isn't going to effect funds much might be cheaper if staying at one shoot and not travelling to others on the same day.

Can anyone name a sport where there is no warm up? 

Jaykaysea:- your two favourite men and you = threesome, mmmm, just saying?. I have been perfecting my pre-shoot routine for 43 years. I would still like a warm up.

 

[schmokinn]

Most sports are not fair on those with limited funds. A lot of shooters manage to cram in 2-3 shoots in one day or over a weekend so no shortage of money here. 

Having a warm up or being able to buy two cards isn't going to effect funds much might be cheaper if staying at one shoot and not travelling to others on the same day.

Can anyone name a sport where there is no warm up? 

Jaykaysea:- your two favourite men and you = threesome, mmmm, just saying?. I have been perfecting my pre-shoot routine for 43 years. I would still like a warm up.

​gotta admit i always like to see a pool shoot or compact to wake/warm me up otherwise i always drop a few on the first stands.

i warm up when i go to the gym,play badminton and soforth....maybe a few stretches are in order before i start shooting?

 

[Jaykaysea]

​Jen, do you actually shoot at the targets on offer or just fire into the air.If you do shoot at the targets I would suggest that is against the rules.

No just fire in the air...no targets involved...think the correct terminology is to ask to clear your gun...

What I am working on is imagining myself starting well...not going in with the mind set that I always start slowly and the first stand can be a bit of a problem...because guess what happens then...self fulfilling prophecy...

Not saying it is easy but I am least trying to do something about it....

And Rosso not yet managed to get them both together but give me time.... :kiss:  

 

[Nimbusgb]

Lots of sports don't have warm ups.

sailing, gliding. Lots of money involved and no practicing on a course beforehand.