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Hammy, how long does it take to set a 100 bird sporting course with 24 traps over 12 stands, allowing for 150/200 entries plus allowing for a few spare traps in certain placesincase needed ??... plus charging batteries, putting remote/cables out & all the other behind the scenes efforts that go into staging a reg event, in your professional opinion !!
You start Saturday lunchtime don't you?

 
Hammy, how long does it take to set a 100 bird sporting course with 24 traps over 12 stands, allowing for 150/200 entries plus allowing for a few spare traps in certain placesincase needed ??... plus charging batteries, putting remote/cables out & all the other behind the scenes efforts that go into staging a reg event, in your professional opinion !!
Dunno, how long does it take for a restaurant owner to prep for lunch time cover, how long for dinner bookings ?  How long does it take for a car dealership to prep the whole capoodle to receive customers who want to buy, service, repair or do MOT's ? How long does it take for a dentist to open shop from inception ? The answer is years. I'm not sure why or whether you're asking for special commendation for those in the clay industry ? ! You work hard and you get rewarded both materially and enjoyment wise. 

I have not insinuated that being a ground owner is easy work, I have in the past admitted I wouldn't in fact want to do it unless I had the money to buy a multi million pound spread which had 5-6 days planning and enough other sideline projects to make it viable to pay all due taxes and VAT and make good returns for several people, even then there are easier ways of turning real profit. The reason I'd still want to do it is because like you I am kinda addicted to the game.

I make a point of dealing in facts only, my statement was : 

Most of us work 5 days, there are at least a dozen I know of who make a decent living (not jealous and good luck to them) by doing 5-8 days a month. 

and I stand by that fully. 

This is about whether holding on to peoples winnings for a mere 3 months is cricket, most would agree it is not and I have (as always using logic) blown away the pathetic myth that doing so for 6 months or a year is aard work. I'm sure you work very hard at putting on shoots, many I know from personal contact certainly do (and I have praised them here).

I know Wylye used to run a very successful place which was sadly much too far for me to ever attend, but be assured if you come at me with facts I will put my hand up and apologise if and when I state something false, otherwise a lifetime of speaking against cliches and plain wrong is going to be a hard habit to break. 


 


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So, after all the long sentance writting (you have used a 1000 words where 3 would of sufficed) "YOU DONT KNOW" !!!

No point in discussing this topic with you as you have little knowldge or interest in replying with a sensible answer.Keep doing what your good at & leave running /setting shoots to those who are both prepared & are knowledgeable of feeding your habit....Good Bye 😋😋

 
So in summary, everyone goes to work and all jobs require some effort; People might not truly require the effort it takes to do a job they’re not familiar with.

 
So, after all the long sentance writting (you have used a 1000 words where 3 would of sufficed) "YOU DONT KNOW" !!!

No point in discussing this topic with you as you have little knowldge or interest in replying with a sensible answer.Keep doing what your good at & leave running /setting shoots to those who are both prepared & are knowledgeable of feeding your habit....Good Bye 😋😋
Good if somewhat feeble try, I DO know what's entailed but I was trying to make you understand that if you're going to use that particular card then you also have to apply the same logic to other professions as well.

What do you and the other hero's here want, a medal because you have to get up to the shoot the day before ? Well lots of other professions require huge non stop effort to make things run. FYI there are different types of shoots anyway, many smaller ones can be set up on the same day and packed up and done by 4.00, (doesn't mean they won't make money ;)  ), some shoots are much more permanent and so the traps don't require massive effort to move into position (or remove after the shoot has ended) ;)  .

This thread was never about how hard setting shoots up is, if you want to start one then be our guest, I shall personally not comment but merely read the real experts accounts. This is about what a reasonable time frame is to hold on to peoples money, I made (a rather popular post) which seems to have got guru and wylye's backs up enough for the former to use his customary crass vocabulary and call people he disagrees with numpties and the latter to make unkind and unnecessary comments aimed at myself (not for the first time either)......when that happens I always return the favour and luckily I possess enough knowledge to make a decent job of it too. Good Bye.

 

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