Sam McNally
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With a budget around £1000 would you buy a second hand gun or stretch to spending a few hundered more for a new one ? Thanks in advance
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Will Hewland
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If its a first gun, go with a good used one. (Browning, Beretta, Miroku probably..). You are very likely to change guns after a year or so.
If you have been shooting a while and can be sure of what suits and fits you, then why not have a gleaming one that you can keep a good while.
If you have been shooting a while and can be sure of what suits and fits you, then why not have a gleaming one that you can keep a good while.
Jeremy Baker
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Second hand.
Brands as described above in Will's post.
Brands as described above in Will's post.
HDAV
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As above buy a good one unlikely to loose much if anything unless shooting something specialist then a 28/30" MC 3" chambered steel proof OU sporter will cover anything your likely to come across Skeet, trap, sporting, pigeons, game, fowl etc etc
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Jim Wheeler
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depends on your situation, how long you been shooting Sam? personally,, if you know what you need, go for a bottom of range new gun,, such as a beretta/browning/miroku ,, at least you cannot blame the gun for bent barrels! :hunter:
or a used gun, but a bit like s/hand cars ,houses, so on,,,,,,you dunno what you going to get really?
or a used gun, but a bit like s/hand cars ,houses, so on,,,,,,you dunno what you going to get really?
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Nick Selby
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I bought new but wished I had bought a secondhand higher grade gun.....
westley
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USED, good condition gun every time. Have just bought a 20 bore o/u new, because I could not find a second hand one. It is my first new gun, ever, in over 50 years of shooting. I am already considering taking some grinding paste to the locking bolt and hinge pin because I am fed up of having to get a step over leg lock on the damned thing, just to open it !
Wonko the Sane
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Please don't do that. That is not how things are fitted. If the thing opens easily with the forend removed, the problem is the fitting of the forend latch. The back edge of the hanger on the barrel presses on the back edge of the hanger slot in the forend iron, forcing it against the action. All you have to do is remove a SMALL amount of material from the back of the hanger to make BIG differences in how the iron fits. If you look at the hanger you can probably even see where the iron contacts it and with something like a jewelers file remove just enough material to make it look different. Remember if you use some giant file and just whack at it you'll be in deep sh*te.
or get someone who knows what they're doing to do it for you
or get someone who knows what they're doing to do it for you
westley
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I will probably just get 'my man' to sit on the porch and open and close a few thousand times, after all I do pay his wages !
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Wonko the Sane
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Proper fitting is the real answer - not wearing it out. Most new guns are fitted WAY to tight and leaving them to grind in is not a kindness.
just sayin' .................
westley
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Not used to 'Scouse' humour ????????
............................Just sayin !
............................Just sayin !
Finners
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Here's a few to consider:
Browning 525
Older type Beretta 686 Nice
Miroku MK60
Miroku MK38 32"
All within striking distance of you.
Browning 525
Older type Beretta 686 Nice
Miroku MK60
Miroku MK38 32"
All within striking distance of you.
Jim Wheeler
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I see that the OP,sam McNally has not replied!
but ,not looking for a fight,, but I must say that a preference to me is a new good quality gun. i paid 1350 for a b525, new. a half decent 425 was a grand or up. for 300 quid i'll have a new one,,,,thankyouverymuch!
a car or house is an example ,in that you can have it checked out, repaired,etc most defects are obvious. a gun is not as repairable ,defects can be hidden, and when worn out ,,that's what it is. worn out. only bit that 's not worn is a wood stock,, and even then,,,?
we are talking about a decent make known as 'bread and butter guns' it's a fact that most guns in use are basic miroku/beretta/browning guns, ,,,a Baikal and others is going to lose a lot of value over a few years,,,and as said,, a s/hand 425 is no cheaper, so go new. probably get your money back after 5 years,,,,but not off me!
we talking working guns,, not pretty,,or expensive!
but ,not looking for a fight,, but I must say that a preference to me is a new good quality gun. i paid 1350 for a b525, new. a half decent 425 was a grand or up. for 300 quid i'll have a new one,,,,thankyouverymuch!
a car or house is an example ,in that you can have it checked out, repaired,etc most defects are obvious. a gun is not as repairable ,defects can be hidden, and when worn out ,,that's what it is. worn out. only bit that 's not worn is a wood stock,, and even then,,,?
we are talking about a decent make known as 'bread and butter guns' it's a fact that most guns in use are basic miroku/beretta/browning guns, ,,,a Baikal and others is going to lose a lot of value over a few years,,,and as said,, a s/hand 425 is no cheaper, so go new. probably get your money back after 5 years,,,,but not off me!
we talking working guns,, not pretty,,or expensive!
HDAV
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I dont understand, you say a 525 was £1350 and used 425 was £1000 (proof of the residual value) but buy a new one anyway?
A gun not repairable??? Where did you get that from? basic machined parts of wood and steel, of course they can be repaired (some more easily than others) oversize stub pins for a beretta a touch of welding on a Browning, Miroku, rust/mistreatment is a much bigger factor than use, as long as the barrels arent pitted or damaged there is very little to go wrong.
All my guns were used, some more than others but in the last 4 years i have had one pin reground in a bottom barrel of the 525..... Its a 2007 i bought in 2010
Baikal don't loose much, not a lot to loose to start with. Very unlikely to get your money back on a new anything after 5 years..... Vat component a major factor. but you will loose more money on a new 692 beretta or 725 browning than on a 30 year old baikal.........
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Wonko the Sane
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The my man was obvious even to me but it did seem to imply that grinding it in was still the preferred option and I'd still like to discourage you from that.
Jim Wheeler
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I see Sam looked today,,, and decided to stay away! I gave my view for him in post 5,,, entirely his call.
EdSolomons
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Second hand all day
