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El Spavo

What are people's thoughts on the fibre version of these cartridges comparitively, as chatting to the bloke in a shop today recommended the latter and I noticed they were about the same price as the Velocity which many on here have tried and/or like? The Superfast were 27g, which looked unusual, but I presume that's why they're cheaper than if they were 28g, but just a guess.

And has anyone seen these for £200 or less per thousand down south at all cos I wouldn't mind buying a slab to try or summat but don't want a shedload and find out I simply don't get on with them?! saving to move house means one tends to watch the pennies! 😏

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Martinj
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Geoff Lucas has both advertised, he's not too far from you

Velocity @ £201

Superfast @ £205

Quirks - 1. He only accepts cash 2. you need to ring before you turn up to check stocks and prices 3.He doesn't do much in Plastic wads (Remember SGC)

Call 07721413332

Forgefarm.co.uk/

I always take extra cash because once I get in his ammo room I'm like a kid in a sweet shop, he'll sell by the slab.

 

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Finners

I only ever shoot fibre and shot Superfasts for years. I've not tried the later version of the Velocities, but they used to be a bit thumpy. Both decent cartridges, so best go with the ones you prefer after you've tried a slab or two of each. 

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Finners

Meant to say, the reason they say 27g  on the Hulls is due to the manufacturing process (can't recall the specific reason) but it means they can't be 100% certain that each and every shell will have a minimum of 28g of lead shot in it. So, they just say 27g.

In reality it's possibly just one or two individual shot that could be taking the weight to 27.99g if you get me? 

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El Spavo

Lawyers running scared of those with a set of scales. :)

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Spr1985

Not sure where you are but Eastern sporting at Chelmsford sell velocity 7.5 28g fibre @ £197 per thousand, set price just split by 4 to get slab price 👍🏻

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jason king

both are good, also worth a try are express power reds,very hard hitting with low recoil. I am happy using any of the three .

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DavidJ

I prefer to shoot Velocity+. Not as fast as Superfast so IMO are less punchy although I'm not a person who really gets concerned over recoil. I've shot Velocity+ for a good few years now and don't have any complaints. 

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El Spavo
2 hours ago, jason king said:

both are good, also worth a try are express power reds,very hard hitting with low recoil. I am happy using any of the three .

Interesting. The main thread two are 1500 MV and these are slightly less than the TT1 I currently use at 1410 compared to the Fiocchi's 1425. Curious as to if it all makes any difference whatsoever for a non-pro. Go, go, Gadget headgames!! :)

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Finners
17 hours ago, El Spavo said:

Lawyers running scared of those with a set of scales. :)

Pretty much, yes. 

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DavidJ
59 minutes ago, El Spavo said:

Interesting. The main thread two are 1500 MV and these are slightly less than the TT1 I currently use at 1410 compared to the Fiocchi's 1425. Curious as to if it all makes any difference whatsoever for a non-pro. Go, go, Gadget headgames!! :)

Gamebore do Velocity+ 28g at 1410 in 7.5 and 8. They also do Velocity+ HV 26g at 1500 in 7.5

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Finners

I'd not get too bothered about the stated speeds. Just try a few slabs of each and see how you get on. 

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DavidJ

You will notice a difference in recoil between the two Gamebore loads... but from a pellets reaching the target, I don't think you'll notice. I do prefer to keep shooting the same cartridge though.

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El Spavo
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4 hours ago, Finners said:

I'd not get too bothered about the stated speeds. Just try a few slabs of each and see how you get on. 

Mate, I probably wouldn't notice if they loaded the cartridges with what my toddler has in his ballpit and used a party popper as an accelerant!! 😃

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schmokinn
17 hours ago, El Spavo said:

Interesting. The main thread two are 1500 MV and these are slightly less than the TT1 I currently use at 1410 compared to the Fiocchi's 1425. Curious as to if it all makes any difference whatsoever for a non-pro. Go, go, Gadget headgames!! :)

No,most manufacturers figures are fantasy!

 

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Goldfinch
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On 5/24/2019 at 12:46 PM, El Spavo said:

And has anyone seen these for £200 or less per thousand down south...  😏

Barbury stocks them at £199 for fibre wad. 

 

 

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Will Hewland

Superfast plas are £190 at Emmet and Stone I believe. 

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El Spavo

Ah, I shoot for the brigade at Barbury so might give them a call. E&S is near my mate so might look into that as well, thanks guys.

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Rammy

Not sure if they have fibre but Horne sell super fasts if you shoot there, Reigate gun makers has V+ in fibre usually 

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Martinj

Horne sell plastic wad ammo

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rocky

BT will do superfast fibre for £31.99/month

 

 

Sorry. 

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El Spavo
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On 5/25/2019 at 11:48 AM, DavidJ said:

I prefer to shoot Velocity+. Not as fast as Superfast so IMO are less punchy although I'm not a person who really gets concerned over recoil. I've shot Velocity+ for a good few years now and don't have any complaints. 

Thinking that the stats are all for the head game market: 50 superfast felt exactly the same as my usual Fiocchi TT1s in terms of recoil, despite quoted speed differences, etc. Starting to think they're making it all up... 😏

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Will Hewland

Cartridge speed really ain’t where it’s at. Another half a foot at 50 yards covers the slower ones.. I personally never liked the feel of Superfast but my mate uses them to great affect. 

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El Spavo

I presumed, rightly or wrongly, that all the speed differential is good for is that at distance you're more likely to break summat cos it's got the velocity that the "slower" cartridges don't have. Allegedly. So if you shoot somewhere where everything is within 30-40 yards then you could pick absolutely anything as they should all do the same job... it's just how they feel with recoil, etc. at that point?

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5 minutes ago, El Spavo said:

I presumed, rightly or wrongly, that all the speed differential is good for is that at distance you're more likely to break summat cos it's got the velocity that the "slower" cartridges don't have. Allegedly. So if you shoot somewhere where everything is within 30-40 yards then you could pick absolutely anything as they should all do the same job... it's just how they feel with recoil, etc. at that point?

Speed isn’t right or wrong. It’s what you calibrate to. If you shoot a super fast shell for a change, you will just miss in front. 

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