English Open at AGL

[Will Hewland]

First report from a mate who is over half way round the course says it’s “miles too hard”. If so, then a shame, showing AGL inexperience. I think the format is meant to be a decent shoot for all, then the finals event can sort out the real top dogs. Anyway, early days, let’s see..

[tiptop]

2 hours ago, Will Hewland said:

First report from a mate who is over half way round the course says it’s “miles too hard”. If so, then a shame, showing AGL inexperience. I think the format is meant to be a decent shoot for all, then the finals event can sort out the real top dogs. Anyway, early days, let’s see..

Finals event???? I thought the EO was a first past the post event, maybe wrong. One mans "hard shoot" is another mans "easy shoot", horses for courses and all that. Anyway I will soon find out tomorrow.

[Stew]

I read somewhere it was a shoot off Saturday. Following British format in a way ??

[Will Hewland]

The scores from the squad of good shots I know about are all way down on their usual..

Martin, you should have got an email from Cpsa; cut and paste:

The Competition

The competition will be shot across a 120-target course made up of 15 stands. All shooters will start on stand one, working their way round to stand 15. The top six scores (shoot-off for ties) will go through to the Super Final.

[tiptop]

14 minutes ago, Stew said:

I read somewhere it was a shoot off Saturday. Following British format in a way ??

Shoot off for the title, but for us mere mortals I'm sure its first past the post. Not like the BO qualifying lottery, and finals day.

4 minutes ago, Will Hewland said:

Martin, you should have got an email from Cpsa; cut and paste:

The Competition

The competition will be shot across a 120-target course made up of 15 stands. All shooters will start on stand one, working their way round to stand 15. The top six scores (shoot-off for ties) will go through to the Super Final.  The scores from the squad of good shots I know about are all way down on their usual..

Good solid major then Will, bound to upset someone.

[Will Hewland]

I assume top six scores means top six in each class and category, so that’s a lot of shooters involved. These events will have about 500 B and C class shooters. As ever course setting is balancing for all. Too early to judge this shoot yet, let’s see scores and comments tonight. 

[tiptop]

26 minutes ago, Will Hewland said:

I assume top six scores means top six in each class and category, so that’s a lot of shooters involved. These events will have about 500 B and C class shooters. As ever course setting is balancing for all. Too early to judge this shoot yet, let’s see scores and comments tonight. 

Can't see that happening Will. Last squads going out at 14.15 Saturday, they will have to get a trot on. Don't forget there is no 'Finals day', like there is in the British.  According to the CPSA website it is just a super final with the top 6 scores, no mention of class finals. Shoot off for medals if the shooters are there.

[wylye]

7 hours ago, Will Hewland said:

First report from a mate who is over half way round the course says it’s “miles too hard”. If so, then a shame, showing AGL inexperience. I think the format is meant to be a decent shoot for all, then the finals event can sort out the real top dogs. Anyway, early days, let’s see..

Don't take too much notice - it wouldn't be a clay shoot if no-one was moaning.

[chippy]

9 hours ago, Will Hewland said:

First report from a mate who is over half way round the course says it’s “miles too hard”. If so, then a shame, showing AGL inexperience. I think the format is meant to be a decent shoot for all, then the finals event can sort out the real top dogs. Anyway, early days, let’s see..

I expect I will find it far to easy and miss through boredom

[Jonny English]

2018-EOESP-Day-1-ClassCat.pdf

[chippy]

Skeet in the woods scores

[donna]

Not exactly skeet  in the woods!  Shot it today and it was a right mixture. The stands out in the open field (5-9 I think) were extremely wind affected so it wasn’t the same for all, and sometimes you didn’t even get a pair the same.  Stand 5 I’m sure it was, was a rabbit then a very low blaze r-l BUT it was so wind affected some blazes were hardly off the ground, I just felt it wasn’t level and the same for everyone shooting.  Incomers that didn’t always come in!! 2 stands cost me where I only had 2/8 on each one, stands 9 and 10 but apart from that shot ok for me.

Free water and apples but not until after stand 9 so make sure to take plenty with you and I felt the trade stands could’ve been better, only 3 there, Pilla and 2 cartridge stands.  Must say the pizza stand was excellent, pizzas done like a wrap, very delicious.

Again the usual not taking shorter people into account.  I was asked by a ref on one of the last stands what we thought of the shoot etc so did voice my opinion regarding not being able to see over hedges but as he said, it’s too late to change things now.

We had a good squad, 4 of us new each other and had Jim and Tom Baker with us so we all ended up having a laugh as we went round but felt there was no atmosphere, so unless you were with friends and if you were having a bit of a doomer then you were stuffed I’m afraid.  

Shoot well everyone!

[Sian]

5 minutes ago, donna said:

Not exactly skeet  in the woods!  Shot it today and it was a right mixture. The stands out in the open field (5-9 I think) were extremely wind affected so it wasn’t the same for all, and sometimes you didn’t even get a pair the same.  Stand 5 I’m sure it was, was a rabbit then a very low blaze r-l BUT it was so wind affected some blazes were hardly off the ground, I just felt it wasn’t level and the same for everyone shooting.  Incomers that didn’t always come in!! 2 stands cost me where I only had 2/8 on each one, stands 9 and 10 but apart from that shot ok for me.

Free water and apples but not until after stand 9 so make sure to take plenty with you and I felt the trade stands could’ve been better, only 3 there, Pilla and 2 cartridge stands.  Must say the pizza stand was excellent, pizzas done like a wrap, very delicious.

Again the usual not taking shorter people into account.  I was asked by a ref on one of the last stands what we thought of the shoot etc so did voice my opinion regarding not being able to see over hedges but as he said, it’s too late to change things now.

We had a good squad, 4 of us new each other and had Jim and Tom Baker with us so we all ended up having a laugh as we went round but felt there was no atmosphere, so unless you were with friends and if you were having a bit of a doomer then you were stuffed I’m afraid.  

Shoot well everyone!

Should I wear my stilettos 👠 .  Food is important to me so was it only Pizza available?

[balltrap]

37 minutes ago, Sian said:

Should I wear my stilettos 👠 .  Food is important to me so was it only Pizza available?

Only if your wearing fishnet stockings and a very short skirt 😃

 

[donna]

8 hours ago, Sian said:

Should I wear my stilettos 👠 .  Food is important to me so was it only Pizza available?

Pizza stand outside but in the main building you could get the usual bacon and sausage sandwiches, pies, cakes etc.  You won’t starve! 

[paul b]

Cpsa have put a video of the stands up on fb,and yesterday i nearly comented up perescope if your short or in a wheelchair,the above comments have confirmed my suspicions,if i can see a issue from a 3min video why cant the people who set up these comps.

[woody]

These videos are so much better when somebody slow-mo's a couple of birds. Apologies if they did later in the video.  I gave up. 

[Doug Pinnegar]

The chap that videos all the shoots from englishsportingclays should have been asked to film the course. His videos always show the targets in a clear way.

[woody]

5 minutes ago, Doug Pinnegar said:

The chap that videos all the shoots from englishsportingclays should have been asked to film the course. His videos always show the targets in a clear way.

Agreed.  The music is a bis suspect and the walking backwards shots   But yeah, his shots of the targets with the hi def slow mo are spot on. 

[Westward]

20 minutes ago, Doug Pinnegar said:

The chap that videos all the shoots from englishsportingclays should have been asked to film the course. His videos always show the targets in a clear way.

Ben Wells runs the site and does the filming. If AGL is wheelchair friendly he'll probably be there at some point.

[Papa]

Shot AGL yesterday and got bashed up . I didnt shoot very well and scrambled round but it felt a bit relentless tbh . From stand 2 crow which was getting pushed back in the wind , stand 3 , 4 and 5 blaze getting pushed down making it extremely challenging . I did hit one though . Stand 6 had a midi which was pushed down below the hedge line but should be a straight if not . Stand 8 looper was a challenge , Stand 11 tough . No respite really . I think you need to be bang on it to put your average in round there . I finished 86/120 . I think 90 something was achievable with a fair wind for me . I didnt feel like a good course like Hodnet last year or Perazzi grand prix . Not balanced . Might be me....

[Richard59]

Shot it today, my own inability to concentrate for 15 back to back tough stands coupled with at times a lack of skill spoilt my day, managed to find most of the monsters only to drop most of the edgy stuff. I know it shouldnt however we all want to think we have shot / shoot well, for me it didnt happen, Im not alone in that, didnt see very many happy faces post shoot which is a shame. 

Good luck the rest of you

[Doug Pinnegar]

I'm yet to hear anyone say something positive. I think its a course that asks a lot from shooters that don't often shoot presentations like these.

Still, looking forward to shooting it on Saturday.

[Richard59]

17 minutes ago, Doug Pinnegar said:

I'm yet to hear anyone say something positive. I think its a course that asks a lot from shooters that don't often shoot presentations like these.

Still, looking forward to shooting it on Saturday.

Doug, Im not much in a position to comment on the shoot, it is though one of the most “up there” Majors of this year so one expects it to be stiff, a challenge & exceptional, me I just dont have the skills to be able to put a score in such an event hence my 🙁 I would need to seriously improve to say I enjoy such targets, thats not meant to detract from the shoot, its an admittance of inability.

Enjoy saturday

[schmokinn]

Really surprised to hear all these negatives as Charlie Stewart-Wood director of AGL said in Pull that "targets need to be set for all competitors not just the elite" and that Marc Bonnet the target setter "has a natural ability setting interesting and challenging targets that give confidence to the shooter"

Would appear Charlie talks sh*te then!!