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Thanks for the replies and insights, still haven't managed to decide - going back and forth between them! The MK38 32" is 7lb 12oz which sounds much lighter than most MK38's, will that be very barrel heavy? Easily sorted with some weight in the stock I suppose. The Ultra XS 30" is 8lb 3oz...

The Miroku is a 32" 1997 MK38 fixed choke trap gun that has been teagued. The stock is unaltered, I would probably want to put an adjustable comb on it as I usually need a bit of cast and gives me options POI wise. But it's fairly well used and plain. The XS has a great bit of wood on it though...

No, I live fairly remote. I will get it fitted if necessary.

Looking for opinions on these two, will be bought unseen. A 1997 MK38 Grade 1 that has been Teagued, 32", its been fairly well used but top lever still fairly well right of centre. £925 A 2012 Ultra XS Adustable M/C 30" with very nice wood, its done nothing and is as new. £1200 I don't need...

Thanks for the replies and insights everyone, it's all been very useful and given food for thought. There is a lot of wood in the ProTrap too, it weighs 9lbs 1oz and yes slightly barrel heavy. I might just do that! Thanks all.

That shooting ground is an eight and a half hour drive from me so not going to happen I'm afraid.

Yes I think that sums it up, an itch for a new gun! I've never shot a high rib, but I'm 6'3", slim and a reasonably long neck and was perhaps keen to try something with a bit of a monte carlo and a mid height rib, partly for comfort as i do get a bit of neck pain on occasion. Would the Ascent be...

Hello, Just looking for any opinions to help me make up my mind...... I'm thinking of trading in my 32" 725 Protrap for a CG Invictus Ascent in 30", i've been offered a decent deal but i was just wishing the CG was 32"! (Both used for mainly sporting but with a little DTL when the club has...

Thanks for the feedback both, I'll maybe try it on Gun Trader.

Hello, I've not been on in a long time as my shooting - well clay shooting at least - has taken a back seat. Between Covid, building a house, starting a family and work I just haven't had a chance. Therefore I have decided to sell my Browning ProTrap Adjustable. It is the black actioned one...

Thanks for that, I'm not going to find a tidy 32"  within budget I don't think. I use a 32" Browning Pro Trap for everything just now. Tipping the scales at a mite over 9lbs with no weights installed. A 20bore at 6lb something is going to feel quite different! Regarding the proof on the CG...

Not seen any tidy ones within budget! I presume the handling is the same as the 686SP?

I'm looking at buying a 20bore game gun, just for a bit of fun on the farm really.  Two options I have narrowed down to are a Caesar Guerini Woodcock 20 bore 30" barrel which I haven't handled as I don't live anywhere near but would be prepared to take a punt on. Its a 2008 gun but only bought...

There's one on Pigeonwatch. Here: https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/389190-caesar-guerini/

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Sorry! I wasn't implying that Promatics are Chinese made - I meant the Hot Shot traps are UK built as opposed to some of the cheaper Auto traps. Should have been clearer there!

Does anyone know anything about Hot Shot traps? I'd never heard of them until I came across them on Google.  I was looking to buy a new Promatic Superhawk with a wobble base but going to be over £2000. Theirs are more favourably priced and use the same EMD motor as Promatic and made in Lincoln...

As above looking for the above if anyone knows of one or similar quality clay trap. Ideally fitted with a wobble base but can purchase seperatly if not. Thanks.

Yes you can, I had 2 extra on the rear post no problem.

If you're referring to FreeShots measurements above mine come out pretty close: IC .002 LM .004 M .008 IM .012 LF .026 F .037 XF .042 So apart from Full and Extra Full all way less constriction than should be in them according to conventional measurements. They seem to pattern pretty...