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Right o. Just come into a job lot of very mixed cartridges at the very right price. There's lots of high end stuff like sovereigns and parcours in there along with some fiocchi . Golden something, fblack and hv. Pro ones and pro one dtl. Hull sporting 100's. So far only shot some sovereigns and this is what I found . Bit harder on recoil than my normal and breaks about the same. I'll update as I try the others. Normal is fblu 28 grm and dt11. Jasper.

Much as I enjoy winding the hedgies up, it’s a genuine question. Surely a normal sized bag would suffice? Is there really a need to carry so much kit around? Each to their own I suppose but it seems a little excessive to me.

I like to stick with what im confident with ,yes most of thats down to the placebo effect of a shell ive had results with and i dont find thumpy and also a shell thats easy to get whilst at a international comp. As this in the trap section its also worth mentioning some manufacturers say they have more stringent quality control on the high end comp shells as issf comps regularly weigh and measure the shot as do the competitors, so a shell thats constantly wrong will soon be dropped by the top shots for that reason.

Jan is Sporting baiting again, pretending trap is normal, while actually most shooters are doing sporting. It is 125 cartridges at least which you need to set off with and it’s unlikely you will be near your car at any stage.

Gamebore EVO mostly. Very middle of the road price wise. Pattern well and smooth.

so what's your cartridge choice ? i shoot eley superbs they out perform me !! but i wouldn't call them a premium shell , but expensive enough !

Don’t try shooting here then! £230 is for average stuff in UK

I have always believed that the man behind the gun is what make the difference. However even I have progressed to a better quality cartridge but I do not know of any cartridge I could buy either in France or Italy, where I do my shooting, that could get anywhere near £350 per thousand ! I am paying about €240 per thousand for a quality Rio T4 cartridges and the shells I brought back from Italy last time were Clever T4 PRO at €280 per thousand I would consider these premium cartridges. Anybody paying any more than £230 per thousand needs their head seeing to 🤣

Thanks very much for the update!

I don't have a very good reason. In my experience fishing there are 2 types of people, those with one rod and a backpack and one with 2 ton of stuff, ready for every eventuality. Guess which I am?! By the time my bag has gloves, glasses box, cartridge pouch, hat, cloth, oil, barrel snake, ouch pouch kitchen sink etc it gets a little cramped. Overkill, I know, but it's how I like to do things. And lifting gear in and out the car for all my hobbies equates to a powerlifting set of deads so there's that!

I must ask, why on earth do you need a bag so large? Mine has space for shooting glasses, earmuffs and maybe a banana, that’s about it. Why lug cartridges around, collect them from the boot of your car after each round.

It’s important to evaluate what a cartridge offers in terms of felt recoil and pattern and find one that suits your needs/ expectations. The cartridge doesn’t know if it’s being sold for £350/1000 or given away, so really don’t correlate cost with “better”. Very expensive shells usually do two things; pattern very tightly and have high recoil. Does this suit what you need? Extreme range clays are probably the only reason to use them. If not your requirement then don’t pay for it, as it’s probably even a disadvantage. (Leaving the mental side completely out of it) The trick is to find one that doesn’t kick you in the shoulder or the wallet (ideally) but which does always perform on the targets you’re tackling.

yes use a quality shell , it removes doubt , one that performs with your chosen choke !! and unless you shoot a massive amount its not that much more expensive over a years shooting !! it just leaves pilot error to work on !! 🙈

Worth it if you can tell yourself it is. Otherwise it's your chokes that caused you to miss. Or your glasses. Or your jacket. Or the time of day. Or the seat of the vehicle you arrived in. Or your wife/husband/partner's last comment. Or finally your cat/dog!

son shoots yildiz pro sport triggers are ok nothing to worry about not on par with hes dt11 great gun for the money

I think that finding a cartridge that suits us , our gun and its choking is very important . No doubt in my mind that a 'Premium' cartridge may be useful on occassions , but considering the expense they need to be used when necessary rather than than at all times .

Just had a reply from the company, they don't ship outside of the US. There are mailing companies in the US for situations like these but by the time they take their cut and all the import fees are applied I'd be better off buying another car to cart everything around in! I do have the Beretta cartridge bag already, but its already feeling small. I'll give it a whirl and if I do feel like I need something bigger then I can have a look at the suggestions on this thread. Thanks everyone.

Ordering from the USA , factor in around + 25% for VAT & duty , and another £10 or so for clearance fees . If your delivery comes by post the post office will leave a card with a reference number for paying before delivery . Of course sometimes you might get lucky and it arrives on your doorstep without duty , but never bank on that .

A few years ago the aldi fishing bag was all the rage, am i the only one still using one?

Probably been done to death in the past...........but what about now?

That’s a cool looking bag and if that’s the one you want, buy it. It’s your money pal !

I watched all the events live on the ISSF channel last week. The shooting across both trap and skeet was good and I do think the TV coverage has really come on in the past couple of years. Credit to Mr Lisin and his investment. The Golden Target presentation was good too. Some big money to be won.

There is a large external zip pocket either side. Plus a pocket at one end, insulated drinks holder other end. Inside are various pockets / compartments, large and small. It’s really organised. Bag is rigid. I really recommend it.

Will, what does the other side of the bag look like? All I've been able to see is the same two pictures. It looks like one big main compartment and one segmented pocket in the front. Is there any other organisation? Cheers.

Seriously: https://gb-nicashooting.glopalstore.com/wild-hare-deluxe-tournament-bag/