Tricky, as ground owners need to make a living. We would all drink more champagne if it were £5 a bottle, but champagne producers wouldn't be in business long.Should 100 Registered Sporting entry prices be reduced to try get more people interested back in the sport ??
Totally agree.As many have said before.....this is not a cheap sport. Also people like ground owners have to earn a living otherwise we have no grounds to shoot at. Many of them already subsidise juniors and there is also the Clay Shooting magazine initiative.
Not sure how a reduced fee for new shooters would help and why should shooters who have been loyal to grounds for years not equally get a benefit....if you are thinking in those terms.
Nope .....the answer is .........if it is too expensive for you ........change sports.
We all save our dosh for our entertainment and therefore we all play sport as our individual pockets allow.
The way the sport is increased is by people having the passion for it..................and not people being given it on a plate.
Few value what is 'given' without much effort.......but everyone values what is worked hard for.
(In my humble opinion).
Ah Holmfirth..........my old club.......many a Wednesday spent there shooting skeet and DTL and ABT..............................A number of years ago, Holmfirth shooting ground used to run 50 bird reg shoots. Skeet or DTL in the morning and sporting in the afternoon. These shoots were very very well attended because they were well run, well priced and totally entertaining. 50 bird events, I think would be the best way to get more people shooting reg shoots. It worked then, it should work now.
Phil
Steve Lovatt puts a comp shoot on at windrush for £30, the numbers seem to be significantly lower than his other shoots at weston and westfield which have a higher entry fee, all three shoots being to steve's high standard.There are people out there who would like to shoot registered but simply cannot afford to regularly do it, as the cost is a big leap from practice / club stuff.
As for the ground owner needs to make money etc, that seems to me just utter pants. prices have been creeping up and numbers have dwindled away, ground owner then puts rates up again to up his income, more dwindle away, the process keeps getting repeated.
Perhaps im dumb but surely attracting more shooters with a lower entry fee is the way to go.
A shoot needs a certain amount of shooters thru the door to cover the costs of refs, clays, insurance, ground rent, etc, etc. once that number is hit then every other shooter that enters is profit minus the cost of clays.
100 entries at £32 (BO/ £37 comp) = £3200
Adding a pound to entries makes him an extra £100 (£3300)
Leaving the price the same but having 4 extra shooters turn up makes him more than £100
If the cost was £27 (for birds only/ £32 comp) then 120 shooters would bring him £3240
So a £5 per entry reduction you would need roughly 20 extra shooters to put you back to the same sort of figures, get more than 20 shooters and your quids in.
Id be fairly confident that you would be able to pick up more entries by making the entry cost cheaper, maybe someone needs to advertise a cheap shoot and then trial it!
i think somewhat you are missing the point.I think we should try and keep this away from 'ground bashing' - and focus on what practical things could be done to bring more people into the sport. Agree that it is not a cheap sport, and people have to pay to play, but I think everyone is in agreement that we'd like to see more people in the sport, so ideas that are MUTUALLY beneficial to Shooters AND Ground Owners etc are surely the best ones?
probably more likely the fact its a saturday, i cant say ive ever seen a big turn out on a saturday shoot anywhere ofr a long long time.Steve Lovatt puts a comp shoot on at windrush for £30, the numbers seem to be significantly lower than his other shoots at weston and westfield which have a higher entry fee, all three shoots being to steve's high standard.
Windrush is usually on a saturday so is it just entry fees or is it the amount of spare time people have as well.
On this lower pricing does not stand up although we would all love lower costs.
Windrush is a registered shoot for £30 with prize moneyi think somewhat you are missing the point.
there are loads of shooters about, that are in there 20s/30s that are on the club shooting scene but not doing registered. look at the average age of the REGULAR reg sporting shooter i bet its probably 50-55 and these are the people who have the most disposable income, look at fitasc and its probably even higher. its the younger generation that need to help to get into the registered shooting, not so much the juniors because a lot shoot as a junior then pack in once they are out of juniors. it needs to be more appealing to the masses and in my opinion that means it needs to be cheaper.
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