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El Spavo

Know you do a lot of comps Will, but for people considering starting off on that path, what are the lowest end scores you're likely to encounter at one so one can get an idea if you're going to be hideously outgunned. Not everyone is bothered by what others score (myself included, .) but there will be some out there who might take a morale hit under certain circumstances if there's potentially a gulf so it might give a guide.

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Will Hewland
7 minutes ago, El Spavo said:

Know you do a lot of comps Will, but for people considering starting off on that path, what are the lowest end scores you're likely to encounter at one so one can get an idea if you're going to be hideously outgunned. Not everyone is bothered by what others score (myself included, .) but there will be some out there who might take a morale hit under certain circumstances if there's potentially a gulf so it might give a guide.

There’s a full spectrum at every shoot. What you find is that at some shoots like Horne, where you don’t need to master the art of “lead” so much, the lowest scores from newbies are quite good, like 50%. At tougher shoots real newbies can get pushed down in the 20s. A tough shoot will reduce AA shooters by 5-8 targets perhaps, while inexperienced folk will suffer a much greater loss. 

You can look at any person or grounds scores on CPSA website. Mine for instance: https://www.cpsa.co.uk/averages/william-hewland/10811

 

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Sian
14 minutes ago, El Spavo said:

Know you do a lot of comps Will, but for people considering starting off on that path, what are the lowest end scores you're likely to encounter at one so one can get an idea if you're going to be hideously outgunned. Not everyone is bothered by what others score (myself included, .) but there will be some out there who might take a morale hit under certain circumstances if there's potentially a gulf so it might give a guide.

As I’m here I am going to answer that.  You can go to shoots where the lower score could be 20s or 30s.  There were quite a few in the 40s today at Churchill’s at quick glance and there were probably a few lower.  My very first shoot ever was a registered shoot and I scored 23.  If someone is new to shooting there’s are no expectations if on the other hand someone has frequented a little shoot for a long time and then ventures out it is very  possible they will get a wake up call but at the end of the day lots of us find it hard to manage our own expectations.

 

William beat me to it 😂

EJC for me and I was doing very well until my third to last stand which was 12 where I missed the first bird every time and the last second bird because I was frustrated.  I went in to shoot and suddenly a sim pair off the tower came across the sky line regularly so 3 clays in the sky.  Very frustrating.  Should have called distraction but the queue on that stand was very bad and probably would have annoyed everyone to stop and go find the culprits.  Finished on 80.  It seemed to take a long time to get around today and the second half of the shoot was very cold.  Enjoyed the targets very much.

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P1Fanatic

Just back from a busy EJC. Got there 10 mins before last cards and was entry 161! Walked to stand 1 to see it 20+ deep so carried on. Dropped 3 of the 2nd bird aerial rabbits on 2 and then was pretty steady but never setting the world on fire. Managed to zig zag around and find a couple of empty stands but mostly it was heavy going. By the time I got to 12 the light was starting to disappear and it had dropped another couple of degrees (when I got back to the car it was reading 1.5c) so was happy to straight that after 5-6 no birds and missing a couple of 70mm's in front on stand 9. Then back to 1 at 15:45 to find it empty. Walked back to the clubhouse and collared a groundsmen who found the scorer packing up and heading out the door. He mumbled something about why are people so late to which I just replied well the comp times are until 16:00 and as we walked over others were arriving still. Managed to drop all of the 2nd bird orange teal - could only just see it as it cleared the trees. Ended on 84 and not too unhappy with that after dropping 7 over 2 stands.

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Hamster
1 hour ago, Sian said:

As I’m here I am going to answer that.  You can go to shoots where the lower score could be 20s or 30s.  There were quite a few in the 40s today at Churchill’s at quick glance and there were probably a few lower.  My very first shoot ever was a registered shoot and I scored 23.  If someone is new to shooting there’s are no expectations if on the other hand someone has frequented a little shoot for a long time and then ventures out it is very  possible they will get a wake up call but at the end of the day lots of us find it hard to manage our own expectations.

 

William beat me to it 😂

EJC for me and I was doing very well until my third to last stand which was 12 where I missed the first bird every time and the last second bird because I was frustrated.  I went in to shoot and suddenly a sim pair off the tower came across the sky line regularly so 3 clays in the sky.  Very frustrating.  Should have called distraction but the queue on that stand was very bad and probably would have annoyed everyone to stop and go find the culprits.  Finished on 80.  It seemed to take a long time to get around today and the second half of the shoot was very cold.  Enjoyed the targets very much.

I'm surprised the ref didn't say something himself 😶  not fair really. 

Enjoyed the targets very much as usual, weather just on the right side of cold but not freezing, plenty of people on every stand today so tons of waiting around. I shot most stands well but when was the last time any of you missed the first 3 pairs on the trot 😳 well I managed it today on stand 9 with the innocent looking looper and mid range crosser 😬only crushed the last pair by cutting the lead back on both by a foot ! 85 scored but trust me I will remember this lesson, all 70mm's worth of it.

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Sian
22 minutes ago, Hamster said:

I'm surprised the ref didn't say something himself 😶  not fair really. 

Enjoyed the targets very much as usual, weather just on the right side of cold but not freezing, plenty of people on every stand today so tons of waiting around. I shot most stands well but when was the last time any of you missed the first 3 pairs on the trot 😳 well I managed it today on an stand 9 with the innocent looking looper and mid range crosser 😬only crushed the last pair by cutting the lead back on both by a foot ! 85 scored but trust me I will remember this lesson, all 70mm's worth of it.

Hammie I think he was probably just thankful I didn’t call distraction, it was a big queue 😂

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Doug Pinnegar

I didn't envy you guys shooting out in that cold yesterday!

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P1Fanatic
4 minutes ago, Doug Pinnegar said:

I didn't envy you guys shooting out in that cold yesterday!

I was actually too warm at the start - my feet were sweating. It got a fair bit colder later on but two giant peacock hand warmers meant I didn’t even need gloves.

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Sian
1 hour ago, P1Fanatic said:

I was actually too warm at the start - my feet were sweating. It got a fair bit colder later on but two giant peacock hand warmers meant I didn’t even need gloves.

I was fine until the last three stands and the wait was actually quite long and I started to feel the cold.

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antse7en

Second reg shoot in the bag this morning, 59 at Four Counties. 

Thanks to @Will Hewland for accommodating me! Some very different targets today, things that I haven’t seen before in the few months I’ve been shooting so not too disappointed in my score.

Looking forward to the next. 

As an aside one thing which is striking me about the “shooting community” is how friendly and approachable most people are at the shoots, it’s great for somebody new to the sport. 

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Will Hewland

I thought it was one of the best 4C courses I’ve shot. Sadly I was shooting like a blind man on the easier targets. Held my own in some tricky stands but score rubbish. Antse7en did very well. A future star. 

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tiptop
21 minutes ago, Will Hewland said:

I thought it was one of the best 4C courses I’ve shot. 

Agree with you there Will. Lets hope it's starting to turn a corner.

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GlawsterOldCodger
5 minutes ago, tiptop said:

Agree with you there Will. Lets hope it's starting to turn a corner.

How did Martin fare? Oh and did you remember as dont want to see you standing outside the Headmistress door do we 😉

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tiptop
1 minute ago, GlawsterOldCodger said:

How did Martin fare? Oh and did you remember as dont want to see you standing outside the Headmistress door do we 😉

Not my finest hour, still on course for B class :wink: so made sure this card went in.:yes:

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schmokinn
26 minutes ago, tiptop said:

Not my finest hour, still on course for B class :wink: so made sure this card went in.:yes:

Went and shot the pool shoot at Wallers Ash a couple of times and then on to 4CTC,targets better slightly,a new stand location and couple of decent targets but the first 3 in the woods and a couple going out into the field same as always 🙄

Rabbit speed on stand 3 very random fairly sedate to rocket powered on occasion!

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Sian

Just the one shoot today so chose four counties.  I too was pleasantly surprised that some change had occurred and enjoyed the round.  Started on the pool shoot and Tony shot 10+10 and then onto course.  I dropped three crows which nearly sent my blood pressure through the roof 😂.  I was very happy to hit all the teals as some of you know I simply hate them.  Last stand in the field down by the pool shoot I didn’t see my first bird until it was practically on the ground, have no idea where I was looking but it wasn’t the right place!  Then hit it then missed it then hit it.  Finished on 85 so was pleased to win B.  Tony shot 90 so he is coming along with his new toy quite well.  He then shot off with Billy and John on the pool shoot and they put on a stonkingly hard first bird from the left a standard that was approx 70 yards away that climbed across and then went away - only Billy managed to hit twice.  Billy shot 6/10, Tony 4/10 and John 3/10. The purse was £150 but they agreed to split it and shoot for £5 which I have to say was extremely good of Billy because his chances were by far the best.  Tony also managed to come joint second in A.  So we had a good day’s shooting for nothing and some money left over.

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antse7en
1 hour ago, Sian said:

Just the one shoot today so chose four counties.  I too was pleasantly surprised that some change had occurred and enjoyed the round.  Started on the pool shoot and Tony shot 10+10 and then onto course.  I dropped three crows which nearly sent my blood pressure through the roof 😂.  I was very happy to hit all the teals as some of you know I simply hate them.  Last stand in the field down by the pool shoot I didn’t see my first bird until it was practically on the ground, have no idea where I was looking but it wasn’t the right place!  Then hit it then missed it then hit it.  Finished on 85 so was pleased to win B.  Tony shot 90 so he is coming along with his new toy quite well.  He then shot off with Billy and John on the pool shoot and they put on a stonkingly hard first bird from the left a standard that was approx 70 yards away that climbed across and then went away - only Billy managed to hit twice.  Billy shot 6/10, Tony 4/10 and John 3/10. The purse was £150 but they agreed to split it and shoot for £5 which I have to say was extremely good of Billy because his chances were by far the best.  Tony also managed to come joint second in A.  So we had a good day’s shooting for nothing and some money left over.

I was behind you at one point Sian, watching how you took some targets and I gave Will the look of "well she's rather good!" at which point he told me who you were! Another face matched up to a username. Great shooting. 

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Sian
28 minutes ago, antse7en said:

I was behind you at one point Sian, watching how you took some targets and I gave Will the look of "well she's rather good!" at which point he told me who you were! Another face matched up to a username. Great shooting. 

I did see you yes.  Glad you enjoyed it. I have good days and some very disappointing days, consistency of temperament is my biggest weakness followed by paying attention. I continue to strive.

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