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Jonny English

Morning all, I am interested in trying some fiocchi, but don't really know anything about the range other than the basics off the website and prices etc.

Can anyone give me an idiots guide to the range? Been looking at the tt, fblu, fblack, F3 sporting, piston and bior etc. The bottom to midrange price stuff.

Not too fussed about velocity, more interested in smoothness and felt recoil, value for money and general feel etc

Thanks Martin.

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ips

have shot a lot of fiocchi and found the Black to be the best all things considered however the last couple of batches I had were sh*te which put me off the whole range...

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tpd1309
2 hours ago, ips said:

have shot a lot of fiocchi and found the Black to be the best all things considered however the last couple of batches I had were sh*te which put me off the whole range...

What was the issue. Ive been looking to try these?

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ips

its about three years ago. I had shot thousands for about five years with no problem but then two batches in a row were poor. To be honest it could have been how they had been stored at rfd but it was same rfd I had bought the previous ones from.

the odd one went with a pop was obviously a very slow and poor primer ignition, a LOT of soot left n barrell and it felt like the shot was doing half the speed. After countless issues over a few slabs the remaining 4k of the second batch were returned.

never had confidence in them since but as I say that was a few years ago now

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PP
4 hours ago, Jonny English said:

Morning all, I am interested in trying some fiocchi, but don't really know anything about the range other than the basics off the website and prices etc.

Can anyone give me an idiots guide to the range? Been looking at the tt, fblu, fblack, F3 sporting, piston and bior etc. The bottom to midrange price stuff.

Not too fussed about velocity, more interested in smoothness and felt recoil, value for money and general feel etc

Thanks Martin.

Only tried fblack and fblu...

fblack break your shoulder

fblu take it off completely..

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Oldblaster

I use Fiocchi TT One fibre 7.5 and find then very good and consistent, for long shots l use Fiocchi Black 8, these are as good as any l have used. 

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ips
2 hours ago, PP said:

Only tried fblack and fblu...

fblack break your shoulder

fblu take it off completely..

I always found blacks very soft ūüėě

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Will Hewland

Apart from the crap patterns, the reason I dislike F blacks was the recoil and the noise! Made my head ring.

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westley
42 minutes ago, Will Hewland said:

Apart from the crap patterns, the reason I dislike F blacks was the recoil and the noise! Made my head ring.

Never mind the crap patterns, it was the crap that was left behind that finished me using them.  Having said that I have used a 28 gram 6 shot 2 1/2" fibre wad Fiocchi in my Westley, and found them to be alright.

Going back to the original post try 250 of the cheapest through your OWN gun and then decide.

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Hamster

FBlacks would be near perfection with 5-10% less powder. 

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chippy
19 minutes ago, Hamster said:

FBlacks would be near perfection with 5-10% less powder. 

And 5-10% less price.

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westley
38 minutes ago, Hamster said:

FBlacks would be near perfection with 5-10% less powder. 

Sadly,  most of it remains in your barrels  !

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woody

These cartridge discussions have made me realise that I must be too fat/large to notice any recoil difference in any cartridges, and that my hearing is not good enough to notice the difference in the way they go bang.

Actually Power Reds.  When bebo used to shoot Power Reds I could tell the difference in volume, but only before I had ear molds made.

I now shoot with Fblacks. I like 'em. 

As for Sh!ite up the barrels, Hamster recommended a large bottle of ignore. I've been using it for ages, still got 100% of it left.

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David Paul Gag
16 minutes ago, woody said:

These cartridge discussions have made me realise that I must be too fat/large to notice any recoil difference in any cartridges, and that my hearing is not good enough to notice the difference in the way they go bang.

Actually Power Reds.  When bebo used to shoot Power Reds I could tell the difference in volume, but only before I had ear molds made.

I now shoot with Fblacks. I like 'em. 

As for Sh!ite up the barrels, Hamster recommended a large bottle of ignore. I've been using it for ages, still got 100% of it left.

Funny an't it I have a Kgun and semi a400

I just spray the barrels and push a rag through a few times barrels are like mirrors

Maybe it's the guns ? 

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Geordieboy

Current crop of F-blacks are soft and very clean.  I would suggest that if you have any issues it is because they were stored somewhere damp. In my Perazzi they hold a tight spherical pattern. I shot the long 70m midi crosser with 3/4 chokes and obliterated it 4 times off the belt. Nowt wrong with F-blacks. I would suggest its where you get them from and how you store them.

F3 Pistons for everything up to 45m. These are harder with recoil but for the money and the breaks I get....they'll do me!

Officials are a more progressive recoil, so feel softer. Wads are longer and the pattern definitely holds a long way out. Lovely shells.

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ips
5 minutes ago, Geordieboy said:

Current crop of F-blacks are soft and very clean.  I would suggest that if you have any issues it is because they were stored somewhere damp. In my Perazzi they hold a tight spherical pattern. I shot the long 70m midi crosser with 3/4 chokes and obliterated it 4 times off the belt. Nowt wrong with F-blacks. I would suggest its where you get them from and how you store them.

F3 Pistons for everything up to 45m. These are harder with recoil but for the money and the breaks I get....they'll do me!

Officials are a more progressive recoil, so feel softer. Wads are longer and the pattern definitely holds a long way out. Lovely shells.

had I not had two bad experiences purchased from same dealer who's storage I have been in many times and if my own storage was not toasty warm and dry I would have fully agreed with this. However..

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Geordieboy
27 minutes ago, ips said:

had I not had two bad experiences purchased from same dealer who's storage I have been in many times and if my own storage was not toasty warm and dry I would have fully agreed with this. However..

Ah...Too early in the morning to make myself clear methinks :wink:

I meant to say that it depends on where you buy them from.  Where I get mine from they are stored in a nice dry cow shed thing.  As consumers we tend to keep them in houses so they are nice and dry.  I was talking about how the supplier stores them. Sorry IPS :angel:

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FreeShot
On 15. 7. 2017 at 11:36 AM, Jonny English said:

Not too fussed about velocity, more interested in smoothness and felt recoil, value for money and general feel etc

Price issue aside - try their "Official" line - cures all the problems stated above.

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Will Hewland
3 hours ago, FreeShot said:

Price issue aside - try their "Official" line - cures all the problems stated above.

Why price aside? Are you buying them for me? ūüėĀ

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FreeShot

Silly me...I should step aside i.e. see it coming :D

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ips
4 hours ago, Geordieboy said:

Ah...Too early in the morning to make myself clear methinks :wink:

I meant to say that it depends on where you buy them from.  Where I get mine from they are stored in a nice dry cow shed thing.  As consumers we tend to keep them in houses so they are nice and dry.  I was talking about how the supplier stores them. Sorry IPS :angel:

but I have been in the suppliers store room and it isn't cold or damp. I suppose wherever they got them from could have been the problem ūüė≤ either way it ended my fiocchi era.

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GlawsterOldCodger

Been using F3 & F3 Piston for last 6 months plus (1000's)  always go bang, not noticed any excessive dirt / residue, for me they do feel soft to shoot with, as with all do try some before buying bulk though. 

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Dog Tyred

I tried some F3's at the weekend (thanks Nicola). Must say they were a bit 'punchy' compared to the Eley Superbs I was using, which surprised me slightly. My experience with F Blacks was always good (soft) but patterns are just to tight when shot through 3/4 and full. 

DT

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paul b

Half and 3 quarter is plenty for f blacks on OT,as you will see on sunday greg,although saying that i may be on blues if theres no blacks at the shop later.

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Geordieboy
6 hours ago, Dog Tyred said:

I tried some F3's at the weekend (thanks Nicola). Must say they were a bit 'punchy' compared to the Eley Superbs I was using, which surprised me slightly. My experience with F Blacks was always good (soft) but patterns are just to tight when shot through 3/4 and full. 

DT

I can concur with this.  The F3's are a little more punchy.  If they were the same as F-blacks they'd be perfect (in my book).  

F-blacks definitely pattern tighter.  They incorporate the same wad as the more expensive Fiocchi Golden Traps which are a definite trap shell.  my Mk38 used to shoot centre dense with the f-blacks.  My Perazzi doesn't appear to do that.......Hey Ho! 

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