Oil for the action

Having stripped a few guns down i am giving the action a clean has anybody used silicone spray on it, and your views on that has to the old traditional methods.

My gut feeling would be to avoid them.  My only rationale would be that the teflon loaded lubes, like Triflow, have won my heart for all around do and protect about anything gun.  I have used the silicone stuff on non-metallic things and that seemed OK since the ones I used were not petro vehicle things.  I think

JMO for no solid reason so YMMV

Wonko the Sane said:

My gut feeling would be to avoid them.  My only rationale would be that the teflon loaded lubes, like Triflow, have won my heart for all around do and protect about anything gun.  I have used the silicone stuff on non-metallic things and that seemed OK since the ones I used were not petro vehicle things.  I think

JMO for no solid reason so YMMV




 




 

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Your gut feeling Charlie is  not based on technical fact,certain products have advanced and their usage.

your input is appreciated :wink:

Wonko the Sane said:

My gut feeling would be to avoid them...

JMO for no solid reason so YMMV

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https://www.acc-silicones.com/applications/lubrication.ashx

 "Caution: Silicone grease should not be used for metal to metal high load bearings as it will cause adverse wear."

Having said that, assuming you use a regular grease or oil for the actual lubricant, you should be ok.

http://www.wd40specialist.com/products/silicone-lubricant/ that says otherwise !

The test and what it means: This test measures the wear protection of a fluid on a metal surface. A steel ball is pressed with force against three stationary steel balls and is rotated at 1200 rpm for 60 minutes. WD-40 Specialist Water Resistant Silicone is far superior to the competition leaving the smallest scar, representing its ability to protect your machinery and other moving parts better than the rest.

Since I have no vested interest in the longevity or functionality of anyone else's guns my concerns over whatever lubricants that might be used is minimal.  OK, actually zero.

I'm always fascinated by the lengths people, not all of course, will go to in order to avoid taking the easy path.  Alternative lubes for guns seems a particularly attractive venue for questing.  

So, Rock On!!     :clapping:

Beretta oil and young's 303 have done well for me over thirty years so I see no reason to change to fancy new stuff. Plus I love the smell of 303,,,,Mrs ips not so keen so I have to remain in my gunroom at all times, which is fine by me as I have an ashtray a drinks globe and my leather swivel recliner in there ?

Vaseline and 3 in 1 oil mixed and painted inside the action with a kids paintbrush. If it is good enough for most English gunmakers, then it will do for me !

westley said:

Vaseline and 3 in 1 oil mixed and painted inside the action with a kids paintbrush. If it is good enough for most English gunmakers, then it will do for me !

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its not bedroom action i was talking about

balltrap said:

its not bedroom action i was talking about

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AND, nor was I  !....................................................I mean how good do you think my memory is    ? 

Had a shooting lesson at doverige,when the instructor looked at the browning which I own,gave me a bollocking for using WD 40 as lubricant said it would damage the gun and not to used on any firearm

Dbac300566 said:

Had a shooting lesson at doverige,when the instructor looked at the browning which I own,gave me a bollocking for using WD 40 as lubricant said it would damage the gun and not to used on any firearm

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Standard WD-40 is not a lubricant. Legia spray is far better (use for cleaning and protection) and half as cheap. I take my stocks off now and again and give the trigger mechanism's a light spray and wipe of any excess. A proper grease or oil is what you should use on the hinge pins etc - your choice.

Battue said:

Standard WD-40 is not a lubricant. Legia spray is far better (use for cleaning and protection) and half as cheap. I take my stocks off now and again and give the trigger mechanism's a light spray and wipe of any excess. A proper grease or oil is what you should use on the hinge pins etc - your choice.

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I asked Beretta / gmk what they reccomended for the action and the hinge pins, they replied "oil" rather than grease so its the little bottles of Beretta ones for me, there the bottles that you buy and get a free gun and case thrown in. ?

Good quality engine oil for load bearing surfaces,not like your going to achieve several thousand movements a second on your action is it

schmokinn said:

Good quality engine oil for load bearing surfaces,not like your going to achieve several thousand movements a second on your action is it




 

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I have been told by more than 1 gunsmith the thinner the oil the better so engine oil is a bit on the thick side i think

schmokinn said:

Good quality engine oil for load bearing surfaces,not like your going to achieve several thousand movements a second on your action is it

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I dunno, I can get very nervous when I am shooting.  Having said that, a lot of other people also get very nervous when I am shooting  !     :ahappy:  

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I have been told by more than 1 gunsmith the thinner the oil the better so engine oil is a bit on the thick side i think

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Most modern engine oils are considerably thinner than in the past 5/30w being an example,but for any load bearing surface it is about the oil being able to maintain a film under pressure.

that said i clean my Perazzi with vp90 or legia and apply a small amount of grey grease to the trunions/bearings,bifurcated lumps...etc and that's it.

There are a variety of Silicone lubricants but a lot of them cause metal to metal surfaces to rip them selves apart. WD40 wont do that but a lot of people come out with stories that it removes bluing etc. I have never seen this but I dont use on guns my self. Browning Legia for me with a bit of moly grease on the hinge pins.

copperslip.....   thats the way forward,

gun wont wear, coz you will forever be trying to clean the stuff off hands, clothes etc  and not have time left to shoot.....