Light green clays in the sky

It's bad enough shoots putting orange clays in the sky which in certain light conditions cannot be seen such as bright yellowy grey over cast conditions. A shoot I went to on Thursday had a green one high and curling away prob 35-40yds, almost invisible. Same shoot had mini orange teal and a orange target shot from a grouse butt which was hard to see. I changed lenses 3 times.

Having 7 different Pilla lenses I'm wondering is it impossible to have every colour of clay covered. Are some ground owners just being stupid putting this colour in the sky. Surely the best colour is black. It's bad enough the clay beating us but now it's the colour as well.

I have had my eyes checked and they are perfect ( two there ). 

Is there one Pilla lens which covers the lot. Or which is best for green clays in the sky.

Think they had lots of coloured clays left over from a big comp they recently hosted 

Might be a bit outdated this, was under the impression that each and every target should be able to be seen with the naked (I've clear vision glasses) eye? 

Rich Moreing said:

Might be a bit outdated this, was under the impression that each and every target should be able to be seen with the naked (I've clear vision glasses) eye? 

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That's exactly how it should be. One ref down there could not see the hits. They don't all wear specialist eye protection. At what point is enough. At £195 a set of lenses it's getting rediculous. All these very young scorers mostly done wear any eye wear how can they see them. The ground said light conditions changed well if the clay was black it would not matter.

I'm thinking if the target cannot be seen I am not shooting it.

Must be awefull for prescription wearers.

Open question then, if you cannot see the clay or even enough of the clays intended presentation can you "decline" to shoot it? Aware it's a can of worms, just don't know the answer and it is a problem I've experienced in the past (heavy prescription lenses) no one likes to be beaten by a target and sure no setter wants the target to be overly difficult / lost on visibllity alone 

Stand 11? I wear prescription glasses for shooting now (I blame my age) and whilst it wasn't perfect it wasn't horrendous.  I did lose one of the orange ones on Stand 8 briefly against the sky.

Buy the Randolphs, then you can put a different colour in each side  !!     

Bebo said:

Stand 11? I wear prescription glasses for shooting now (I blame my age) and whilst it wasn't perfect it wasn't horrendous.  I did lose one of the orange ones on Stand 8 briefly against the sky.

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It depends what time of day you shot it. Both the grouse butt, the mini teal, the orange one disappearing from the bank into the sky, and the green one were horrendous between 09.00 and 11.30. Lots of complaints. They even changed the grouse butt, after people had shot it, which started as left one first / right one report to right one first as scorer could not see the right target.

I over heard two shooters talking whom I did not know one said "they won't be happy until they totally bollox the sport" he was talking about the green one.

Really if you can't see them because of colour then you cannot shoot them so why bother.

I'm just wondering what the best overall colour lens for this type of target or may be there is none.

I wear prescriptions and felt that the target in questionwas ridiculous and more a test of your eyes than your ability to put lead shot on the target. The low quartering away one was clearly visible, but the crosser was on its way to ground before I could even see it. Thankfully was only shooting Birds Only.

They changed that to right one first left one report after a lot had shot it other way round and complained.

Madmillie said:

I wear prescriptions and felt that the target in questionwas ridiculous and more a test of your eyes than your ability to put lead shot on the target. The low quartering away one was clearly visible, but the crosser was on its way to ground before I could even see it. Thankfully was only shooting Birds Only.

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Didn't think they could do that half way through a competition shoot. ??

Rosso said:

It depends what time of day you shot it. Both the grouse butt, the mini teal, the orange one disappearing from the bank into the sky, and the green one were horrendous between 09.00 and 11.30. Lots of complaints. They even changed the grouse butt, after people had shot it, which started as left one first / right one report to right one first as scorer could not see the right target.

I over heard two shooters talking whom I did not know one said "they won't be happy until they totally bollox the sport" he was talking about the green one.

Really if you can't see them because of colour then you cannot shoot them so why bother.

I'm just wondering what the best overall colour lens for this type of target or may be there is none.

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Ah, didn't realise that people were shooting it in the morning as the Registered shoot wasn't advertised to start until 12.  I started at about 1, it was pretty busy with a few waits and I shot 11 as the last stand, so probably about 3.30 - 4 before I was on that one.  Only missed the first one and that was due to poor hold point and not pushing through the shot properly, rather than not seeing it. 

Rosso said:

 the orange one disappearing from the bank into the sky

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Don't remember another orange one in the sky apart from the one on the grouse butt.

Personally, if its a clear sunny day with fluffy clouds, i like to use white clays !!! :baby:

Bebo said:

Ah, didn't realise that people were shooting it in the morning as the Registered shoot wasn't advertised to start until 12.  I started at about 1, it was pretty busy with a few waits and I shot 11 as the last stand, so probably about 3.30 - 4 before I was on that one.  Only missed the first one and that was due to poor hold point and not pushing through the shot properly, rather than not seeing it. 

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Sorry it was 12-15.00 got my times mixed up. That green one just appeared and disappeared just got a flash of it not enough really to get a good shot.

Bebo said:

Don't remember another orange one in the sky apart from the one on the grouse butt.

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Down the bottom Right to Left slowish up bank into sky. May be they altered that.

philmoss said:

Personally, if its a clear sunny day with fluffy clouds, i like to use white clays !!! :baby:

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Cannot ever see that happening at your shoot. About £800 of lenses not need there. The reason is - you know what your doing as you shoot yourself and its your business. 

I`ve always maintained clay shooting should test your shooting ability not your eyesight !

Rosso said:

Down the bottom Right to Left slowish up bank into sky. May be they altered that.

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Still don't recall it.  They might have changed it or maybe it's not just my eyes that are being affected by my advancing age.

Shows how bad my eyesight is, I thought that target(stand 12 trap A) was a black one??