Doctor Lecter
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ok boys and girls , best mechanical recoil reducer on the market please , I cant afford the osteopath rates any more !
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SoftTouch from the US coupled to an Isis Green pad from England :
http://www.softtouchstocks.com/softtouchsystem.php
http://www.recoilsystems.com/greenpad/green.asp
Those are just about the best if you must preserve a semblance of looks but plenty of easier to access gear around, I have used a PFS stock for years and that is about the best there is looks nothwithstanding.
Skeet UK
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Accept no substitutes http://www.recoilsystems.co.uk/productdetails/products.asp
Add an 11mm green pad on the back.
I'm not the only one. Ed Solomons never said, "If it is good enough for Gary, it is good enough for me"
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Best recoil reducer? A PFS, no question. Having tried other devices nothing else even comes close.
ehb102
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I love these! I shot a marvellous Browning B25 with one of these on and it was quite the nicest gun I've had my hands on. It just floats there. Not a kick in sight.
I hear the Xpad is pretty good too.
I don't think you can reduce recoil. You might feel less but the gun still recoils in the same way regardless of what you put on the back of it. I think the best way of getting relief from recoil is to hold the gun properly and use a cartridge that causes the least amount of recoil ... so as ips said a lighter load and a well fitted gun should help a lot. It is a fact that you will see very few really top shots using the devises being touted here.
There are many top shots who use recoil reduction devices, if you take into acount a half decent pad as a minimum, then all of them do ! Without being too harsh the subject of recoil is one of those where unless you're personally affected to the degree of having to seek ways of reducing it, you simply wouldn't have the benefit of either experience, knowledge or wisdom to comment in a constructive way.
Yes of course gun fit is important, yes of course reducing the shot load or speed will have a beneficial effect but you're simply confusing two separate entities. You can have a gun that is 110% correctly fitted and fire 21g loads but if it weights 5 lbs then it will still cause discomfort to most shooters. It's a question of not only balancing the elements but individual tolerance and thresholds.
If you wish to reduce the cumulative, concussive effects of recoil whilst still shooting your preferred speeds / loads through a gun that fits perfectly well, then you have to look at devices designed to spread the recoil pulse.
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Speak to Dave Izzard at Recoil Systems. Best solutions available in the World.....in my honest opinion.
Dave was a great Fitasc sporting shot and is currently a good trap shot so he knows all sides of the disciplines.
Without the X pad I would have had to probably stop shooting 36grms.
Dave was a great Fitasc sporting shot and is currently a good trap shot so he knows all sides of the disciplines.
Without the X pad I would have had to probably stop shooting 36grms.
Will Hewland
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The world FITASC champion could probably be viewed as a top shot. (I could be wrong).
The ISIS system is a spring damper unit, similar to that which we all experience in the suspension when we drive a car. If you remove all suspension from your car you will notice a difference in the ride quality, over bumps especially. Then, while spitting your teeth out you can ponder how much nicer a gun can feel with an ISIS system.
But seriously, I would hugely miss my ISIS system now.
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Yes.
Please lets not start listing all the top shots who use them or some ucker will start a row over who are the top shots and what are the only disciplines that can be considered as 'top'.... :wink:
The OP has several answers now....it is up to him to go and decide.
Jonny English
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Another vote for Dave Izzard, top bloke, I've had 3 green isis pads off him now, the 14mm's are good but the 19mm I had was excellent on a shorter stock.
Will Hewland
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Another point to mention is that the ISIS system does NOT affect the balance of the gun. Net weight change is minimal. The USA system shown I believe is a heavy unit which does.?
Skeet UK
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Of course you can.
It is only "energy". So you use a device, that can absorb the rearward movement and lengthen the recoil pulse, then convert it to other forms of energy (heat); a shock absorber, with ports, through which the oil moves. This absorbs the recoil and converts much of it to heat (friction through the small ports). The foam and leather portion, also act as "air shocks" and fitting a green pad, continues this theme, due to the construction of the foam pad.
The remaining rearward movement, is GREATLY reduced. There is also no maintenance.
I hasten to point out, the ISIS uses two SMALL springs, of which 3 pairs are supplied, in degrees of tension. This is used to help return the reducer to the ready position. It is the oil filled Shock Absorber, that is the primary reducer of recoil.
What you DON'T want, is anything springy...like most recoil "pads".
The PFS, uses a Bevelle Spring, which slows and stores the rearward recoil (springs store energy), then the stored energy is used to push the gun forward again...a bounce.
Which does make the felt recoil almost non existent, but you do have to put up with the forward "bounce"...swings and roundabouts. Obviously it is also totally adjustable, but it is £1300.
Seriously, call Dave Izzard and have a chat about it...lovely man. Lots of information is hidden around his website, you just have to look for the arrows and links etc, site building is not his forte
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