No guns in hotels?

How wrong can one Malmaison get it...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2711425/No-guns-Dundee-hotel-tells-Commonwealth-shooter-calling-police.html

Unbelievable on the part of the Hotel and especially the Police.

Always wise to check with accommodation providers that they are willing to have guns on their premises when booking.

She did nothing wrong here so why the over reaction from the police, seems the police don't know the law. I would never tell the hotel what's in my luggage and would not phone ahead and ask if they are "ok" with guns because given the choice most will say no due to fear, lack of understanding, lack of intelligence.

A mate of mine (he is on here) got stopped on a Sunday morning for speeding in a 30mph area. Two young coppers spotted his gun and ammo in the car and flipped out. 100 questions etc. A call to the station did get them in touch with a sane older copper who talked them down from the tree..

I had a Perazzi with detachable triggers to keep with me, and leave the shotgun locked in the car. Or leave the barrels and forend locked in the car and keep the action with you. Nobody need be any the wiser!

ShootClay Admin said:

How wrong can one Malmaison get it...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2711425/No-guns-Dundee-hotel-tells-Commonwealth-shooter-calling-police.html

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It's not one Malmaison.

A friend (newbie) was staying in the Aberdeen Mal. Phoned beforehand re the gun and was told that it was not a problem.  Turned up and they told him he could not bring it in but that they had an arrangement with the Police who would store it for him and gave him the number.  Of course they new nothing about it.  Management gave them a call, sorted out a taxi and the Aberdeen Bobbies did indeed store his shotgun overnight.

Chaos. He has now learned his lesson, keeps his trap shut and does not take his shotgun in but only bits of his shotgun. 

Hotshot100 said:

Unbelievable on the part of the Hotel and especially the Police.
 
Always wise to check with accommodation providers that they are willing to have guns on their premises when booking.

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Hotshot100 said:

Unbelievable on the part of the Hotel and especially the Police.

Always wise to check with accommodation providers that they are willing to have guns on their premises when booking.

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I do the opposite - have never told a hotel. I wouldn't tell them about my £1500 laptop or my expensive camera.... so I'm not going to tell them about this.  

It's my responsibility to keep my gun secure (as per conditions of my SGC) - if I cannot trust a hotel to bring up a bottle of water on room service, I'm not going to trust them with my gun or SGC. 

Agreed Matt. I was agreeing with the "unbelievable" bit and should have removed the second bit. I'm just a lazy git at times

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Feckin morons but then the meeja has everyone in the UK completely neurotic about everything from pop-guns up. As for your average urban jock plod :dontknow:    :banghead:

At least it gave the Daily Fail a chance to post some pictures of her.

tobi-wan said:

At least it gave the Daily Fail a chance to post some pictures of her.

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I feel dirty even looking at the fail... but I was duped by a link (that's my excuse)

As usual sensational and inaccurate reporting on the part of the Daily Mail. Rachel Carrie was not part of any Commonwealth Games team so if this incident did affect her shooting it would not make a bit of difference as even if she had straighted the layouts her score would not have counted.

Rachel and at least one other lady shooter went as fillers on the Woman's Double Trap as with only 8 entries the squads would have been unrealistic otherwise.

I am sure that she would have wanted to shoot to her best ability but this was not the reason that she was there, therefore any inference that this incident could have affected the outcome of the Commonwealth Games is completely unfounded.

I actually find some of the posts on here to be totally ridiculous. I can't see any one objecting to a camera or laptop being taken in to a hotel room but a gun is another matter.

On facebook there is talk of locking the gun in the hotel safe, locking it in the boot of the car bla bla bla. Do people not understand the terms of their SGC or FAC. As Matt stated YOU are the sole person responsible for save custody of a deadly weapon (in the wrong hands) how can you ask a hotel to secure it when ten people without SGC could have access to the safe!! and most car thieves can access the boot, then what? Bye Bye SGC forever.

Hotshot, you're absolutely right. Rachel was not competing, she was only a filler. To suggest the experience caused a lack of sleep thereby affecting her performance is taking it a little far. It would'nt have made any difference if she'd scored nothing.

Sensationalist and inaccurate journalism, i'd be interested to know who the source was.

Oh, and if you're staying in a hotel don't tell the staff you have a gun, you're only making trouble for yourself. I've stayed in hotels with a gun all over the place and never had any problems. Ignorance is bliss.

Best option would be to 'overnight' it at the ground where you're going to shoot, with an RFD, or as a last resort plod, not possible in the lassie's circumstances. As a last make it inoperable, remove the bolt from a rifle or break the shotgun and keep the bits separate in locked cases as well as the rounds/carts. Wouldn't leave any of the bits in a boot overnight either.

As to the article, bog standard journalism and certainly no worse than I've known before. Anyone that expects accurate reporting is deluded, especially from the tabloids as it wouldn't sell, so you have to treat it that way.

Hotshot100 said:

I actually find some of the posts on here to be totally ridiculous. I can't see any one objecting to a camera or laptop being taken in to a hotel room but a gun is another matter.

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My point was less about objections - more about taking personal responsibility and not letting anyone know what I have bought with me..  I am responsible for my SGC, my gun or anything I take - I don't tell the hotel, because quite honestly they are the most likely to have a thief that has a key to the room... so, I keep it to myself.

My gun is no more deadly to anyone than a golf club, cricket bat or tennis racket if used incorrectly.

Nobody would ask permission to bring any of those other pieces of essential sporting equipment into an hotel, so why should your gun be any different. We have to stop apologising for being gun owners.

I know the others are not subject to licencing, so all the more reason to be quiet about having the gun with you. It is nobodys business but yours, and it is your responsibility to safeguard it. Leaving gun parts in the car is Ok for short stops perhaps, but if your car is broken into overnight, you can bet the remaining parts will be stolen and that only leaves you with an insurance claim and a trip to the Police Station with all the asscociated grief that will bring.

My gun never leaves my control when it is out of the cabinet. You have to examine whether you are responsible enough to have one if you cannot take extra precautions when away from home.     :biggrin:

Edit: For spelling errors.