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    Target Setters Bible! My job is to entertain the shooters and give them an interesting shoot! Targets over the last ten years got harder and some plain stupid and a lot of luck is needed some days. Recipe. First target of report pair, bread and butter, 2nd med to hard! but must be shootable! Simo pairs must have time to shoot both targets! Don't put 2 long targets on a stand will cause long tailbacks! No edge on targets or black against the trees or orange in the sky! Most of it is common sense?also I never wear glasses while setting? If I can see them so can you!
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    Enjoyed my weekend shooting. If scores are up to date, I came 4th in Ladies at Jack Pyke which as Dan said was better than the Premier League shoot they held and bonus got all my driven. Then after such a long day on Saturday got up early to get to Southdown for Sportrap and felt like a bag of poo, not enough sleep which for me means mega headache. Took pills and soldiered on to enjoy testing Sportrap and Sporting, at a massive breakfast in between those two and came away with South of England Sporting Lady and South East of England Sportrap Lady.
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    Peter, I thought the event was ok. Not Great not awful. Can you prove traps were interfered with or moved? I would be careful of that assumption without proof. Were you there? I saw Eley on site selling cartridges. They were the headline sponsor I would imagine they limited other cartridge suppliers on the ground (I would if it were my business) It was £127 for the main event which although expensive not unheard of. I am not here to defend the shoot but constant bashing from inside the UK helps undermine rather than come up with solutions.
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    I am proud to say I got Greater London Compak Ladies today at Southdown on 90/100. It was the Kent, Sussex and Greater London shoot. I worked hard for the score using the Beretta 682 which I don't like because it doesn't fit me but I made it work and bagged myself a 25/25 on the last layout. The others were 22, 21 and 22. I feel happy because Greater London shooter was Adrian Balham on a 95, Henry Arnold on a 96 and scoring 19 on the last layout so I felt good to get that 9 on the front. I was the highest lady as well. I also won the ladies in the Sporting on a good course and struggling to keep the 3 plastic combs from wobbling, reapplying tape as I went. It was very humid and the tape was stretching. and coming loose - very irritating. Correction - I think Guy was high gun on Compak - 96. No the High Gun was S Wells on 97.
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    Yes I do. I think there were some odd decisions made reference stands and overall targets shot but I do not feel the shoot any better or worse than lets say the English this year. The weather changed half way through the shoot, to the point the teal on layout three was fierce when I started shooting layout three landing unseen, by the end of the layout I was shooting it on the drop as it landed by the trap that sent it. To accuse the organisation and course setters of moving traps is crazy. I would say mistakes were made but no one is perfect. We make mistakes here and we have been in business 56 years. No one person or organisation is perfect.
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    Surely you set the course, then put together two squads to trial shoot it? I suggest the squad would be made up 6 shooters, preferably two AA, two A and two B class. Each shooter must have shot over 100 reg shoots previously. They get a free round, but can't shoot the main event obviously. Then watch them, listen to them. Amend as needed.
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    The shooting standard is so high at the top these days, partly I suspect because there ARE lots of firm registered shoots at which these guys gain their experience and skills. The stars like Martin Myers, RF and a 100 others are going to put in a 95+ at shoots that might make your eyes water. If you try and make these guys end on 88, you will have a large crowd of lower end folk down in the 40's and actually learning not a lot because repeatedly not hitting a target doesn't teach you anything. The brain logs what a hit looks like, so you need to do it occasionally. Nothing is more misguided than to expect C and B class to be won on low scores. Rising stars will always bang in the odd high score. They are merely AA shooters in waiting, who haven't been swept up by the present CPSA system which takes too long to move them up. Also, some shooters remain in the lower classes because they are inconsistent and shoot with emotion rather than method. This means they can put in a big score, but their average is poor. Another reason for not judging lower class winning scores.
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    Thanks for the replies everyone. Deapite my apparent lean towards the Blaser in my list above, I went to view a DT10 this morning. It is 9 years old, and genuinely looks brand new! Mint condition. Needless to say, with the 32" barrels, adjustable comb and a leftie, I have left a deposit on it and will be picking it up next week. Pics to follow.... Thanks again everyone.
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    I shot it today and after shooting in the fifty's and sixty's for the past few months I was more than happy with 111 and joint 2nd in A
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    As per my posting after being well and truly "found out" at Longridge I bravely took on Coleys today, squadded event I was shooting at 2.30, last rotation and the scores on display were a bit lower than I'd expect from the names already shot, ex Gloucester and England prop forward Phil Blakeway was leading on 93, looked to be the only 90+ from first two rotations and these were I'm told "full" our merry squad was just five today, and a fabulous famous five we were in shooting order, I think it went, Glamour Girl Zea, this old duffer, Silver Spoon Joe Hale, Puppy Paw Stew Keen and the dispicable me dead ringer Steve Lovatt, one had a roller coaster shoot I couldn't find a large (high) midi off the tower nor a longish rabbit that we shot down off the bunding, then for our last stand, and I'm up first, they put on a simo pair of double trap targets, marmite stand, real marmite not the pretend stuff but real marmite, won't be surprised to read I dropped 6/10 so 😡😡😡 from me to end on 72, at 2.30 I'd been happy with a 7 in front, dropping 13 / 26 on last three stands somewhat took the wind from my sails, anyway Zea 62, Joe 82, Stew 86 and Steve Lovatt 96 to take high gun, early in shoot during a stoppage I did have a dry mount with Steves K80, even more impressed that he put in a 96 with a gun that this lightweight old codger found really heavy. Cracking day, superb weather, top squad of chums, I really enjoyed 11/12 stands so overall well done Coleys👍
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    Ah, you have had a Land Rover then ?
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    Shot the Jack Pyke Open at Sporting Targets yesterday, much more enjoyable than the Premier League shoot. Finished on 111 which was enough to finish 13th, nice little goody-bag for every shooter as well.
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    Hi Peter, Yes I was and no it wasn't. Kelmarsh will soon be forgotten, little will change. Organisations within shooting are not perfect. FITASC certainly isn't and the CPSA is no different. We are in the main hobby shooters with an organisation that fits that purpose. We will never be professional here as the money in the UK does not currently exist to make the move from amateur to professional.
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    I shot the red course Thursday. I never went back for the blue course the following day-thought that I would be better cutting my losses on hotel fees etc. As far as the red course went,I thought the target presentation and variety was very thin gruel. 90% of the targets were edge on and either quartering or going away. Apart from anything else,when a firm like Promatic are generous enough to sponsor the event, I would have thought the least they could expect in return was a demonstration of how versatile and adaptable their traps were. Most of the targets thrown on red could be thrown by a 50 year old hand trap-it takes a matter of seconds to tilt a trap base,to allow belly or dome to show The stand that stands out in my mind on red,was the long rabbit looper. That target would have been plenty hard enough if a standard clay was thrown. To throw a rabbit clay at that distance,is nothing short of insanity. After one of my shoots,whilst tidying up,it is pretty normal to see rabbit clays with 2-3 holes in them,and still be intact-and that would be from shooting around the 30 metre mark-not 60 plus! There has been several references already made regarding the cpsa-I would wonder what the wider financial ramifications will be? How many people,that shot this shoot will say "sod it" when next year comes around? I would hazard a guess that well in excess of 50%-probably 70-80% of the cpsa annual income is generated by the sporting discipline alone. I think that it is high time that this should be recognised,and subsequently treated with the respect and importance the sporting discipline deserves. One final comment,and I don't want it to sound like its any form of personal abuse,but if I paid a builder to build a wall,and it was wonky or it fell down,I would complain. I just wonder how much sporting the course setters for both this event,and the equally dire Berretta World actually shoot? Do they enter any run of the mill 100 registered shoots,,let alone any of the majors? I would say that Steve Lovatt and John Dyson are the 2 most prominent and proven course setters in most peoples minds at present. Both of whom actively shoot the competition circuit.
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    It's rare to hear RF say a stand was too tough and hint the rest wasn't much nicer. There are only two hard jobs with course setting; getting variety (not that hard) and getting the course difficulty balance correct. Any tw*t in a hat can set an overly hard course. It is selfish and requires no ability.
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    Two factors come into play here. The microphones close for four seconds to permit firing plus the hooter; the previous shooter may have a no-target even though he fires and not all referees give an audible warning. Watch the previous target down to the ground then commence your routine. Even Ian Peel I notice glances up at the previous target. If you go to your focal point during the previous shooter you will see what happened to the target without looking at it.
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    link to live scores http://www.multipullsoft.it/Live/showMatch?matchs=NRAYT145.28.43&live=True Regards Leigh
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    My Cpsa money buys me the insurance, access to any majors i fancy, infrastructure for region and county shoots and a portal to track and record scores with access to other scores if i want. We all contribute handsomely to the sponsered shooters one way or another, thru entries, retailers cartridges etc,
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    At least when I next miss, I can just tell the scorer that it was my fault as I was only using 82% of my left arm
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    We have a 100 bird shoot on the 12th of Aug, The people who we are running the shoot for asked for a 50 bird and are providing scorers for it. We are just setting it up and running it they will be taking the money. For the future we are opening up new areas in wood to provide more interesting stands. its all looking good for the future a new tower will be going in. keep giving us your support and we will continue to make improvements and expand the shoot. Dave
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    Really ? I bet I can set up a 100 birder with everything inside 60 yards that nobody will hit 60+ . I also think differently regarding your other point, in fact most people will improve noticeably once they are able to hit easy targets. Then the medium ones........the hard ones follow on gradually. Nine times out of ten the winners are those who hit all the easy ones.
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    Being a very average C class shooter and this being my first experience of a major shooting championship, l had no expectations and was just happy to be taking part with my shooting mates, but seeing the frustration that they felt, was an eye opener, they are all A and double AA class, but they were certainly questioning there ability after this, especially with some of the scorers, who l know are doing a job many of us would not want to do, but on one stand l was asked by the scorer did your mate hit the second clay, surely that is the scorers job, another told us that if we shot a clay above the tree line and they could not see it, then it would not count, perhaps the scorer could of moved to improve their view of the shot, or is that not allowed, another had a gun malfunction and the gun did not fire, so he broke the barrel to check, and was informed that was illegal, and was given two misses, and one one stand l was asked how it was going, l replied l can not see much here for a C class shot, well the reply was, this stand is sh*te, so you had better stand outside the stand so l can show you a pair, because once you are in the stand you won't stand a chance! I come from a motocross and enduro background, both competing and organisation, for over 30 years, and currently run a race team, so l do have some idea of what is involved in organising an event, but if you do not cater for the grass roots shooter and encourage the average club shooters you are not going to have an event to satisfy the proffessional shooters, because there won't be much of a prize to shoot for, l love my shooting as it is nice contrast to a day spent racing, but l for one will not shoot the Beretta again, and also quite a few others have said the same, which is a shame, because the Beretta World Championships was wrong on so many points.
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    Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion but I don't think targets have got harder over the past ten years, conversely I believe generally they have got easier to keep the punters happy. Having shot this on Thurs/Fri I found this a step up in difficulty from your regular registered shoot, which you could argue it should be, being a so called World English Sporting Championship. I think a lot of people were upset being well down on their regular scores where they would expect to get in the 80s and 90s. Personally I enjoyed the challenge of the shoot and was pleased to get to grips with some of the tricky targets.
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    I'm a big believer that all levels of shooter should be able to come off any stand on a course with 50% if they have performed to their standard, 1 easy to medium, 1 medium to hard. You can't beat your bread and butter clients to death on any stand let alone every stand.
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    I'm pretty convinced pattern plate shows the realistic pattern that the clay sees. Breaks always mimic what I've seen too. Any 3D effect is nullified by the speed, so in reality it all gets to the clay at the same time.
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    Had exactly this situation myself down at Brook Bank recently. Previous shooter to me took ages to let off his second shot and I was invariably lifting/closing my gun as the second shot went off. Doh! In the end I started looking/checking below my left blinder to see his barrels touch the floor before I started my routine but it caught me out many times prior to that. In my experience, even at major championships abroad, nobody ever really enforces the 10 second rule unless someone is really taking the piss with ever shot. DT
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    Yes , the British Team were there , but as I predicted some years ago , the Americans are now the Clay shooting nation. I believe the British Veterans did win as a team , but that is possibly because the Americans were not old enough to field a Team . Have a look down the list of competitors, America has strength in depth. We used to have this , but then complacency took a hold. We have many fine shooters but they either don't work as a team or are not selected or available for selection. But I think the major factor for GB is lack of funding. Get selected for America and it is a well funded honour, get selected for Britain and it is an expensive honour.
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    I think that's an over-simplification. The reality is that shoot organisers and ground owners have to make money and if they lose perhaps 50% of their customers because they aren't willing to be repeatedly hammered by overly hard targets, then pretty soon there won't be any registered shoots at all. As Will says, getting beaten up by the course setter doesn't automatically mean shooters will get better. No one's against a reasonable challenge but disillusionment leads to people drifting away back to where they feel comfortable at practice grounds and straw balers. I was reffing at Longridge yesterday and some people really suffered including an AA who posted a 58, but setting up registered shoots can be very tricky. A few weeks ago at Longridge, Steve thought it would be won with a 91 or 92 and in the event there was a 98 and two 97s. It's just not that easy or simple to get the balance right and I believe that setting up the shoot to challenge the top 10% and thereby burying the C & B class shots would mean the end of registered sporting quite quickly.
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    I found it uninspired. I thought stands 12 onwards were the more challenging just a shame they came one after the other really and weren't spread out a bit. I did okay on those. I only had two birds between the first and second half misses. Should have shot the stand 1 to 8 better but some I found hard to pick up being green in either the green trees or cloud. Waiting around for a broken stand for about half an hour or so tested my patience a bit. I really have seen better registered shoots. I like challenging and if one more person says "it's because people aren't shooting their averages that they don't like it" and "what do you expect it's a championship" I'm going to rip them another orifice. Total carp, it simply wasn't special enough. The hospitality part was very nice this year and so it should have been because last year was rubbish.
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    Schmokinn, I don't think you've met MrsP. Apart from the dog, and his crate, and his food (in a freezer box because of course we can't be confident about getting him something to eat in France despite it being the umpteenth trip with him) and his toys and throws to drape over the furniture in the farmhouse (despite the farmhouse being both rural and fully equipped) and his leads and grooming stuff, we had to pack in my own meagre set of clothes, several months' supply of her clobber, a medical bag that left us better equipped than Poole Hospital A&E, towels, washing powder, dishwasher tablets, industrial quantities of toilet roll, kitchen roll, raincoats, umbrellas, food (because of course we may not be able to buy food), crisps, water, wine (I know, I know), computers, chargers, hair equipment, electrical adapters, three pairs of binoculars, badminton kit, duvet cover 'n sheet 'n pillow cases. The list is endless, and while packing it all into the vehicle (having spent an age persuading her that her own Peugeot 207 might not be big enough) I saw that she was taking a bag of onions. Onions, FFS, to France, the epicenter of Global onion availability! I shouldn't have spent all that time looking for a small second hand 4 x 4. I should have been seeking out an artic. That's the battle for cargo space that I'm fighting...
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    Westfield, had a bit of wind / drizzle / sun, shot round with bro who started like a train then fell well and truly off the rails, one had a most enjoyable shoot, despite dropping some incomers (again 😡) finished on 78 bro 62 and told his Mrs to hide all electrical appliances, two on 92 when I left, not busy, would add that it's been the only time I've shot the ground where I've not heard grumbles of sorts, no doubt some superstar will bang in nearer the 100 however as before out of first 50/60 scores only two in the 90's and all shooters seemed quite taken with the course.
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    http://johnjeffries-customguns.com/
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    Essex, Guns, sales,a schuttle back from the end of the course, Gamebore,free water, real depth to the prize structure,200 birds,£80 quid no bad words.
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    Just because an idea is not totally new (what is ?) it doesn't mean that it doesn't work, I have only ever had a couple of shots with a JJ reverse taper thing but in principal what he's trying to do is what hundreds of shooters tend to do anyway which is to have a highish rib sight picture. I have set my gun up this way for 15-16 years now and it took me years to realise the much touted standard advice of "see little if any rib" is flawed if not downright wrong. If his set up allows the clay and surrounds to be more easily visible during the pick up and trigger pull stage then there can't be that much wrong with it.
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    This in essence is how it is run in SA, Mostly with FSP, but also any national or international event. a jury will check each stand, and if needed will amend a target/s, a squad/jury can see problems with safety or shootability that a course setter overlooks. Nobody is above learning a new trick or so.
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    FBlacks would be near perfection with 5-10% less powder.
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    This was the latest post from George Digweeds facebook "World ICTSF Sporting at Kelmarsh ... I have just walked in at home having thought about nothing else in the car going home from the 2 day event I have just attended at Kelmarsh. It has made me so angry that I have had to vent my frustration on social media. Having shot in a competitve enviroment for nearly 40 years, I can honestly say that this is the worst event I have ever been to. Billed as a 'World Championship' with a price tage of £130 to enter, which puts each course of 100 registered targets at £65, which is incredibly 'top end' to say the least, we arrive full of expectation yesterday morning, to go through a lengthy questioning procedure on the gate as to where and when I can park my car in a flat field!!! If I had taken somebody to the event to show them what a World Championship looks like in our sport ... I would have been horrified,. as a small collection of marquees at the far end of the field, with 3 small trade stands, was all a World Championship shoot could muster. You had to make your own tea/coffee before paying for it, and was generally devoid of people. That was the good bit we were to find out!!! .... After my first 6 stands yesterday, I was unsure as to whether I was clay shooting or pigeon shooting, as targets being shot through small holes in trees generally does not inspire. Everything was edge on with no dome or belly shown, and very little thought gone into angles and speed. I shot the red course yesterday and whilst it was wind effected in a small manner, I felt the targets were too hard for the majority of competitors BUT the shoot was SHOOTABLE. I then hear the comments coming off the Blue Course, and on getting back to my car, witness Richard Faulds shoot a 5/10 on a pair of springing teal, which was from where I was stood and the degree of difficulty of the targets looked a reasonable score on that stand. I shot this stand this morning (second day) in a different wind and killed 10 on the drop with my second barrel being 20 yards! How can this be fair!!! With this stand coming so early in the round, and breaking so many peoples cards, their interest for the rest of it would have wained. If shot today, and you have pretty much filled in the stand, it would give you the momentum to go onto a bigger score. Targets can be wind effected as we all know, but there should NOT be 100 yards difference. Having shot the course today, Richard's 90 yesterday would have been phenominal. Having looked round other stands on the course, and understanding wind direction, targets AND TRAPS have moved on the red and blue courses. In the modern day enviroment within shooting, to not put a minimum of 14 (if not 15) stands at a major Championship is at best short sightedness and at worst ... penny pinching. Thank God the majority of shooters who were in Budapest for a first class event last week from overseas did not continue on and come to this event, because having tried to represent the sport in a proffessional manner for a long period of time for my Country - I was genuinly embarressed. I feel the event was a total CPSA cash cow, with the World Championship tag thrown in for incentive. I spoke to a lot of angry people on the phone driving home, who all feel very, very hard done by."
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    I bet your behind it. They need more lead than you think.
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    We dont help ourselves, there would be uproar if costs went up to provide that infrastructure. I dont want to fund anybodies young superstar, thats dads job.
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    Ian leave the eell alone as it is a lovely gun or youll regret it move the 687 on and possibly look for another 30" DT10 possibly multi choke if that's your train of thought
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    Superstars dont pay the bills, its the classes, keep them happy,not quite ecstatic and they will keep filling the entry sheets that make all the sundays happen. Target difficulty is relative to the ability of the individual about to call Pull.
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    I think we had similar conversation a few years ago with Jonz, who if I recall doesn't shoot registered shoots? Tough local shoots aren't quite like a tough registered event usually. And yes, of course it needs balance. Any fool can make it too hard.
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    Oh but Jonz one did hit all presentations just didn't hit anywhere near enough of them 😄, don't quite agree with your general statement a shoot needs a bit of balance, most who shot it were clearly outspoken on the day, unless of course you heard different?
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    Picked it up this morning, went for a shoot. Handles really nice! Very pleased with it.
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    I believe that the Baikal comes pretty close
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    Sorry shortlegs but this is incorrect. Have a look on JJ 's website. There is mutual respect between perazzi and JJ. They have a gentleman's agreement not to copy each others design. Which I believe they will both honour. The high tech has a taper rib which starts at the muzzle wider than the breach. It's supposed to look the same width all the way along when the gun is mounted. Thus creating an optical illusion. Jasper.
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    try as I might I still don't get this reverse rib thing, it doesn't make sense to me. not saying its doesn't work not saying it isn't brilliant I just don't get it.