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  2. PP

    High Quartering Crosser

    Could you not turn toward it and shoot it more as an incomer?
  3. Bebo

    Sporting Shoots; where- and how was it? (2018)

    We're up in Norfolk for a week's break in a cottage next to the River Bure. I abandoned my husband with the dogs and stole his car for the day, less than 60 miles from where we're staying. I don't think he minded too much, he got a days peace to spend fishing.
  4. donna

    Sporting Shoots; where- and how was it? (2018)

    We were going to Barrow but even for us itโ€™s a trek. I really enjoy that ground and the targets, not too hard or easy but each stand makes you think. Didnโ€™t go in the end as it was just too hot to take the dog and we have no one to look after her plus she would NOT let us out the house without her whilst carrying the guns!! Going to Owls for sport trap tomorrow. Shot it quite well for me last month so hoping to carry it on.
  5. Garwood

    High Quartering Crosser

    Make sure of the line and that your footwork isn`t limiting your movement,making you pull off it !
  6. Rod M

    High Quartering Crosser

    Thanks Will. If memory serves correctly, I definitely didn't feel able to comfortably follow the line, so too much horizontal gun movement could well be a factor. I'll certainly also try your suggestion of shooting it later as I do tend to have more success on this sort of target as the 2nd bird to take in a sim pair (in this layout it is the 1st of an O/R pair), which does make sense.
  7. Will Hewland

    High Quartering Crosser

    Sounds a tricky angle. As you say, hard to say without seeing it, but likely it needs little lead if itโ€™s quartering in, plus watch the line, make sure you not travelling horizontally and ending up above it. It also sound like a target I would let come in close and shoot as itโ€™s more crossing.
  8. Rod M

    High Quartering Crosser

    Hi All, I've made good progress with my shooting of late, but, for the life of me, I can't work out a certain target. It's a R/L crosser thrown from a tower that also quarters towards the shooter, so it's a mixture of a high driven and a crosser. Without seeing the target, I appreciate that it's difficult to offer detailed advice, but are there any tips for this sort of flight path. I haven't so much as clipped it in 10 attempts (5 pairs during 2 rounds of sporting), so planning to try and practice on it next time I'm at the ground (assuming it hasn't been changed by then). Frustratingly, there hasn't been anyone around each time I've shot the stand, so haven't been able to see them shoot it and/or ask for advice. I do seem to struggle with the high diagonal flight paths, so any tips therefore much appreciated. Many Thanks Rod
  9. DavidJ

    Sporting Shoots; where- and how was it? (2018)

    Bywell on Saturday for the English Open Sport Trap. 150 targets over six layouts. Great to see this comp in the North East. I shot 131 which I was really pleased with. High Gun was Paul Foster on 149. John Bidwell made the trip up and finished on 144. Well done to Bywell for hosting the event, it ran like clockwork.
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  11. Bebo

    Sporting Shoots; where- and how was it? (2018)

    65 at eriswell and 70 at barrow, both below my average. Both shoots I had two particularly poor stands and the usual lots of one and two aways. First time I've shot Registered comps at either of these grounds. Shame that they are such a long journey, I'd love to shoot both of them again. It was too bloody hot.
  12. chippy

    Sporting Shoots; where- and how was it? (2018)

    82 at eriswell and 84 at barrowheath both above my average but I didn't shoot well at either. One of the hottest days I have ever shot on. I love this weather.
  13. Jonny English

    Beretta DT11L

    Tell me about it, I have always had miroku Brownings before now for 22 years, 7000, mk60, 525 x 2 and a 725. Always of the opinion that Beretta were clumsy and numb and slated them for 22 years. Then saw the advert said exquisitely balanced, and they weren't wrong, test drive it and struck a deal. Almost got expelled from the family for buying a Beretta .
  14. No Bunny

    Beretta DT11L

    Looks very nice, even if it is a Beretta! ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜
  15. Mirakuru

    525... MK38... same thing??

    Yeah, I have hands like shovels so I'm expecting to need a fair bit of wood for it not to feel wierd but we shall see. As I implied before from all I'm readin on it, I guess the point you make about the game Browning having a fair bit of recoil is because it's a game gun so soing to be lighter than a sporter to accomodate humping round a field for hours on end, which in theory is going to give it more recoil as there's less bulk for it to absorb.
  16. Cosmicblue

    Barbury Shooting Ground

    Made the effort to get down to the Barbury shooting ground south of Swindon today, set high up on the chalk downs it is a beautiful spot. Everything is neat and well organised, good car parking, paths between the stands, fencing and all well signed - top notch. Went with a couple of mates, and received a warm and friendly welcome, the coffee is good and free with very reasonably priced tasty bacon (when was the last time you had a choice of smoked or unsmoked?) rolls on request. The ground's targets are especially notable with a good variety right up to and including some that are extremely challenging either by speed, angle, height and/or distance - genuinely satisfying to break. There is thoughtful use of the terrain and a grouse butt too. Open 7 days a week, we will be going back - soon! Barbury Shooting Ground - web site link
  17. westley

    525... MK38... same thing??

    Having owned several of both over the last half century, I would say that the stock configuration between the Miroku and the Browning is quite a bit different, the nearest being the current 725/Mk38 sporter. The 325/425/525 were all a lot different to the Miroku's. The Miroku always seemed to have a nicer stock in comb height and grip, for someone like myself, who has small hands. I am currently using a 725 black thingy, but I do struggle a bit with the palm swell. All of the Browning interchangeable pads are great for those with Gorilla arms (they start at 14 3/4" and go UPWARDS). If, again like me, you need 14 1/2" stock, you may need to change the pad because the standard squidgy thing, can not be ground down ! (hence mine overhanging at the toe ). Some of the game Brownings still have the curved heel on the stock, which will need cutting straight to fit any recoil pads. One of the problems with the game Brownings, would seem to be felt recoil. I would certainly want to try the gun before deciding, remember, even guns of the exact same make and model can all feel different to each other, especially when you come to shoot them. As above, I have fitted a rubber recoil pad on my 20 bore Heritage, I warmed the pad up in boiling water prior to screwing it onto the gun. The pad then took on the curve of the heel, when on the stock.
  18. GlawsterOldCodger

    525... MK38... same thing??

    Took me, a complete novice gunsmith wise almost no time to change a MK38 trap pad to one more of a fit to my bodyshape, and would be just as easy to put it (the original)back on when I eventually sell her.
  19. PP

    Beretta DT11L

    This isn't helping my gun buying addiction ...
  20. AW13

    525... MK38... same thing??

    I am a very similar build and so far I have not found an off the shelf Berretta that fits me. The experts in the gun shop suggested Miroku or Browing for me or there are some other lovely guns if you want to pay even more.
  21. Hamster

    Beretta DT11L

    I've shot Beretta for 30 years and will happily shoot other guns if they suited me but if you put a Beretta DT10/11 action and barrel lumps next to a P or K or Zo or Mi or Br gun and stare at them for 5 minutes you will see they're right at the top of the apex. They also evidently don't suffer from too many breakdowns in any area.
  22. Jonny English

    Beretta DT11L

    One of the reasons I went to one was the engineering and build quality behind them, when you close them they feel superb. On the flip side that's what I was most disappointed about with my 725, it was a grade 5 but I felt the engineering and quality just wasn't there and had a couple of little niggles I couldn't get my head round. I have been most surprised by how the dt11 has handled, always been led to believe they were big and numb, but this is the complete opposite, it can be anything from 8 lb 1oz to 8lb 7oz with the b fast weights in and is very lively. It is balanced and moves excellently.
  23. Hamster

    Beretta DT11L

    Pretty much the best engineered gun out there.
  24. Jonny English

    Beretta DT11L

    Well I have been a Browning shooter for most of my life, and I have finally stepped over to the dark side. Had a very good opportunity to get into a DT11L which was just meant to be. It really is a lovely gun, superbly balanced and very pretty. Just taking a little adapting too at the minute as it shoots a little flatter than my old 725, but it handles very well and just seems to glide. Looking forward to getting to know her.
  25. Mirakuru

    525... MK38... same thing??

    Not sure I can afford a 725 as my budget is about a grand but It looks more and more likely I'm edging towards either a B525 or an MK38/70. Haven't tried a Berretta yet but everyone says they're a bit more... sylphlike, and being 6'3" with a second row prop bodyshape, I'm thinking I might not need such a delicate gun frame! ๐Ÿ˜„ Having said that, I'm not ruling anything out until I've tried it. So far, I've only shot a handful of times, mainly at stag do stuff etc., and the two times I'd gone at it since pursuing this new interest, I think I worked out I shot 39/100 with a 3800 or 7000 and then 54/90 (ran out of time for the last 10!!) with an MK38, so the Miruko shape does seem to lend itself to me unless that second 60% hit rate WAS unbelievable beginners luck! ๐Ÿ˜‚ Third time's the soul destroyer...
  26. AW13

    525... MK38... same thing??

    I recently looked for a new gun and tried MK38. MK70, B525 and B725. I looked at some in both sporting and game configurations and as Westward says the stock dimensions are slightly different as is the grip. On the 725 Hunter it is more of a Prince of Wales design rather than full pistol grip. It is lighter by about 1/2 kg. I bought a Hunter 725 because it fitted me and i liked the feel / balance; recoil does not seem to affect me so that was not a consideration. Even after 100+ carts in a short timeframe it still felt fine - to me.. I am also a relatively new shooter, I would strongly recommend you shoot your preferences before purchase if you can. There is nothing like shooting a gun to see if it right for you. I would also suggest you look carefully at the B525 and B725 as they do feel quite different.
  27. Westward

    525... MK38... same thing??

    Yes. Free recoil, is the actual recoil of the gun and is lessened as the weight of the gun increases. As for the Hunter model, like most game guns, it's intended to be carried more than it's shot which is the opposite of the typical sporter. Also it may have different stock dimensions and balance so look closely. Heavier recoil doesn't necessarily cause discomfort or pain but it can lead to fatigue, Personally I prefer a heavier gun.
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